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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Hispanic isn't a race according to the government so if Hispanic women have a lower risk of developing certain types of diseases than black women it's not a "race-related predisposition".
    Good point. Spaniards are hispanic. Argentinians are hispanic. Why would they be racially considered the same as Mexicans, but not racially the same as Sicilians, for example.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque
    That is not the same as "there is no biological difference that could be defined as "race"", which is essentially what you said. The passage I quoted clearly states that a specific portion of DNA shows a large enough commonality amongst those we socially classify as belonging to one race or another.
    How many races are there? List them, please.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    His categorization is simply a function of how fuzzily your define the boundaries on black or on how many intermediate races you want to designate with respect to clines.

    He'd be black. He's 50% East African, 50% white. If you want to place him finer, he's 50% Luo, 50% English. African Americans are, broadly speaking, about 80%-90% West African, 10%-20% white.

    You haven't thought up some killer question here.
    Just a very illuminating question that shows how arbitrary the whole definition of "race" is.


    Sure it makes it real. If I put a socially defined black person into a racial category of "black" that person, if they have heart disease, has a far higher probability of having a more favorable response rate to BiDil than if I put a socially defined Cherokee into the "black" group and offer him BiDil to treat his heart disease or put a socially defined Swedish-American into the "black" group and offer him BiDil to treat his heart disease.

    If race had no biologic meaning then the government would be wasting it's money reaching out to these imaginary racial groups with warnings about their biologically race-related predispositions to various diseases.

    Black women have a far higher risk of developing ER- types of breast cancer compared to white women and Hispanic women and Asian women. Cancer, the last I heard, doesn't really pay attention to the social definition of race.

    Cancer doesn't pay attention to social definition of race, but researchers of cancer do. RStringfield brought up a great point that the model results reflect the input by the modellers. The researcher input the social construct "race" into the model, and out come the correlation. A correct understand of the result is not that black women are more likely to get that type of cancer, but that a woman with a certain genetic mutation is more likely to get that type of cancer, and that what we describe as Black women are more likely to have that genetic mutation. Being White, or Hispanics or Asian, does not make a woman who has this genetic mutation less likely to get the cancer than a Black woman.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Just a very illuminating question that shows how arbitrary the whole definition of "race" is.
    Apparently it is a scientific rule that if you're 50% black and 50% white, you're automatically black. I'd love to see the science behind that law...
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Apparently it is a scientific rule that if you're 50% black and 50% white, you're automatically black. I'd love to see the science behind that law...
    In math it would look like: X + Y = X.

    Therefore white = 0
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Apparently it is a scientific rule that if you're 50% black and 50% white, you're automatically black. I'd love to see the science behind that law...
    worse than that, in many places you were "legally" black if you were 1/8th black
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    In math it would look like: X + Y = X.

    Therefore white = 0
    Well, whiteness is negatively defined.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    What world do you guys live in that "white = 0" or "whiteness is negatively defined"? Are you guys kidding me? Thousands of years of history is laughing at these three comments in a row. I do not think they make a violin small enough for this party.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    What world do you guys live in that "white = 0" or "whiteness is negatively defined"? Are you guys kidding me? Thousands of years of history is laughing at these three comments in a row. I do not think they make a violin small enough for this party.
    They were jokes. Why so serious?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    In math it would look like: X + Y = X.

    Therefore white = 0

    It's .5x + .5y = x, where x =/= y
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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