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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Typically, yes.
    I should also note that my definition was for the English word "yellow" specifically. In other languages, the groupings of colors can be dramatically different compared to English groupings.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Exactly. What you call family someone else might not. "Family" is just a generally agreed upon label and it is defined differently across various cultures.
    And I can test any members of that family and tell you whether they share a genetic relationship and the precise nature of that relationship.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And I can test any members of that family and tell you whether they share a genetic relationship and the precise nature of that relationship.
    I have two adopted sons, they share no genetic relationship with me whatsoever, but they are definitely part of my family. I also have people with whom I share a common ancestor two generations removed that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I have two adopted sons, they share no genetic relationship with me whatsoever, but they are definitely part of my family. I also have people with whom I share a common ancestor two generations removed that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
    This is because mere biological relationship =/= family.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And I can test any members of that family and tell you whether they share a genetic relationship and the precise nature of that relationship.
    This can be done with any two people, not just people who are family. You aren't testing to see if they are family, you are testing to see what their biological relationship is.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    A computer program can sort people into racial groups by analyzing genetic material and these groups have near perfect overlap with the social meaning of race.


    For each person in the study, the researchers examined 326 DNA regions that tend to vary between people. These regions are not necessarily within genes, but are simply genetic signposts on chromosomes that come in a variety of different forms at the same location.

    Without knowing how the participants had identified themselves, Risch and his team ran the results through a computer program that grouped individuals according to patterns of the 326 signposts. This analysis could have resulted in any number of different clusters, but only four clear groups turned up. And in each case the individuals within those clusters all fell within the same self-identified racial group.

    "This shows that people's self-identified race/ethnicity is a nearly perfect indicator of their genetic background," Risch said.
    And what did the program say Obama was?

    I am a programmer. Any program I write to sort things is going to sort them based on the definition of the categories I code. Of course, i would use the social meanings of the categories. That does not make the categories real in any way other than within the system that I had devised.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Evidence is not absolute proof. There is probable evidence for both sides of this question, as with most other scientific and philosophical questions.

    According to one of my Mental Floss magazines, there was a man named James Watson, responsible for the discovery of DNA with a Nobel prize to boot. I know there's some controversy about him so whatever you dredge up about him to make him look bad won't surprise me. A man of science like him, who follows science, should not be punished if he speaks about whatever evidence science has provided.

    To make it short, I don't refuse to consider scientific questions that may have scientific proof even if society will be incredibly offended by it. So what if blacks, as an overall average, has less intelligence? So what if the Chinese have slightly more average intellect? If science provides evidence, don't think I'll shut my mouth in hopes of not offending the ignorant.
    I agree.

    Where is the evidence? No one asked for absolute proof. You need compelling evidence and you have offered none.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    And what did the program say Obama was?
    His categorization is simply a function of how fuzzily your define the boundaries on black or on how many intermediate races you want to designate with respect to clines.

    He'd be black. He's 50% East African, 50% white. If you want to place him finer, he's 50% Luo, 50% English. African Americans are, broadly speaking, about 80%-90% West African, 10%-20% white.

    You haven't thought up some killer question here.

    I am a programmer. Any program I write to sort things is going to sort them based on the definition of the categories I code. Of course, i would use the social meanings of the categories. That does not make the categories real in any way other than within the system that I had devised.
    Sure it makes it real. If I put a socially defined black person into a racial category of "black" that person, if they have heart disease, has a far higher probability of having a more favorable response rate to BiDil than if I put a socially defined Cherokee into the "black" group and offer him BiDil to treat his heart disease or put a socially defined Swedish-American into the "black" group and offer him BiDil to treat his heart disease.

    If race had no biologic meaning then the government would be wasting it's money reaching out to these imaginary racial groups with warnings about their biologically race-related predispositions to various diseases.

    Black women have a far higher risk of developing ER- types of breast cancer compared to white women and Hispanic women and Asian women. Cancer, the last I heard, doesn't really pay attention to the social definition of race.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    He'd be black.
    Why?






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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    If race had no biologic meaning then the government would be wasting it's money reaching out to these imaginary racial groups with warnings about their biologically race-related predispositions to various diseases.

    Black women have a far higher risk of developing ER- types of breast cancer compared to white women and Hispanic women and Asian women. Cancer, the last I heard, doesn't really pay attention to the social definition of race.
    Hispanic isn't a race according to the government so if Hispanic women have a lower risk of developing certain types of diseases than black women it's not a "race-related predisposition".

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