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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad
    So are you admitting that there is no such thing as the color yellow?
    No, I already defined yellow for you on the RGB spectrum.

    If there is no such thing as race because the boundaries cannot be precisely defined
    There is no such thing as race because the boundaries do not exist; any boundaries that could be set up to denote a "race" would be purely arbitrary and therefore made up.

    Race, like color, has fuzzy boundaries. Yellow exists and is defined within fuzzy boundaries and so too does race exist and it too exists within fuzzy boundaries.
    Except for the fact of course that such a thing as a "race spectrum" doesn't exist at all, "fuzzy boundaries" or not.

    It's odd that in all of this coincidental clustering no one has taken a red headed, blue eyed person and randomly assigned them to the social constructed category of being a black person.
    "Black" people can have red hair and blue eyes.

    Is Campanella black or not?
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Okay, so then we have you on record saying that the influence of Confucianism particularly the parts that emphasize education and elder respect have ZERO impact on the success of Asians today.

    If you understand this sentence, then you'll understand my point. If you don't...well surprise.
    okay, so we have you on record throwing in strawmen and avoiding the real issue. is anyone surprised?

    liberal debate policy 101.

    step one: bleat "you just don't understand"

    step two: try to divert the discussion to an unrelated issue

    step three: call your opponent either a racist or bigot, or both

    step four: throw your hands over your head and squeal "I win"
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes I agree. Race as a social construct can be used to make such statements; race as a biological classification, however, cannot.
    This is the stupidest leftist trope I've ever heard. You're using a social construct to invalidate the biologic construct.

    This is like arguing that height doesn't exist as a biological feature and only exists as a social feature and then sorting people by height into different groups but saying that those groups don't represent anything to do with biology, only how we perceive people to be tall or short or in between.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    "Yellow" is a social construct as well. It doesn't really exist.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?


    This is like arguing that height doesn't exist as a biological feature and only exists as a social feature and then sorting people by height into different groups but saying that those groups don't represent anything to do with biology, only how we perceive people to be tall or short or in between.
    It would be similar, yes, if height wasn't biological or scientific. The ability to "sort" different people into races depends entirely on the social environment.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    okay, so we have you on record throwing in strawmen and avoiding the real issue. is anyone surprised?
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    Okay, so we have you on record that blacks are the only group of people whose actions are completely uninfluenced by their history?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    A clustering of populations that does correspond to classical continental "races" can be acheived by using a special class of non-functional DNA, microsatellites. By selecting among microsatellites, it is possible to find a set that will cluster together African populations, European populations, and Asian populations, etc. These selected microsatellite DNA markers are not typical of genes, however, but have been chosen precisely because they are "maximally informative" about group differences. Thus, they tell us what we already knew about the differences between populations of the classical "races" from skin color, face shape, and hair form. They have the added advantage of allowing us to make good estimates of the amount of intermixture that has occurred between populations as a result of migrations and conquests.

    The every-day socially defined geographical races do identify groups of populations that are somewhat more closely similar to each other genetically. Most important from the standpoint of the biological meaning of these racial categories, however, most human genetic variation does not show such "race" clustering. For the vast majority of human genetic variations, classical racial categories as defined by a combination of geography, skin color, nose and hair shape, an occasional blood type or selected microsatellites make no useful prediction of genetic differences. This failure of the clustering of local populations into biologically meaningful "races" based on a few clear genetic differences is not confined to the human species. Zoologists long ago gave up the category of "race" for dividing up groups of animal populations within a species, because so many of these races turned out to be based on only one or two genes so that two animals born in the same litter could belong to different "races."


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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It would be similar, yes, if height wasn't biological or scientific. The ability to "sort" different people into races depends entirely on the social environment.
    That isn't exactly true (re: my above post).
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    No, but I find it hard to believe that a hard-working conservative who happens to be black would find it comforting to know that at least 2 or 3 people on this thread think that his race is inferior and that he probably lacks the same intelligence as other races. There is an air of arrogance in this thread, where some seem to think they are clearly better than others. That was the point of my post. There are people discussing the intelligence of African Americans (negatively), and more than likely an African American who is more intelligent than any of us will read this thread at some point.
    Philosophically, what if it's true? Science hasn't proven it impossible. Being scientifically-minded, I consider everything and if there's no proof for a belief, I leave it as a philosophical question. Though in terms of credibility I'd say the possibility that evolution DID touch the general IQ of all races to be more credible than ugly trolls who live in caves. Ha hah.

    Furthermore, I never ever stated ALL of one race were intellectually inferior. Not ever. Look at Obama... or not. But really, there are many blacks that are quite intelligent, and I'm sure some of them even got that status on their own merits.

    Why do you think it's negative? What if it's a scientific fact? Obviously, anything pondering such a notion will strike upon sensitivities. But wouldn't you want to know for sure? What if the Chinese were of a higher general intellect than, say, the Aboriginees? Should you follow science wherever it may lead or stick to your own beliefs in order to cling to the notion that we're most certainly all equal in terms of evolution, and that we're all equal in general physical capability, etc.

    If that "African-American", as you put so ploitically correctly, takes offense to the mere question, then too bad. Either you accept scientific proof, if there is and it's not muddied by the scum of bias, or you don't.


    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm pretty damned sure she wasn't referring to you.
    Oh, hello.

    I'm pretty sure you're being too serious and trying to find a soft spot to strike.

    Hey, why so serious?

    EDIT: You got "she" wrong, too. Whysoserious is a "he" as indicated on his profile.


    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Here's the quote - again. I'm over this conversation.
    1st sentence: You said my belief that evolution couldn't have left all races equal was not worthy of consideration.

    2nd: Then as an added question I asked if you'd still consider it if there was proof.

    3rd: That's in general terms, dude.

    Yes, you're "over".
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    That isn't exactly true (re: my above post).
    From your link:

    "This imprecision in assigning the proportion of variation assigned to differences among population within ”races” as compared to variation among “races,” arises precisely because there is no objective way to assign the various human populations to clear-cut races. "
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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