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Thread: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The words "honkie" and "cracker" don't have the same connotation as "nigger." They just don't. I don't find either name offensive, actually -- because I wasn't asked to sit in the back of the bus or sleep in a different hotel or drink out of a separate fountain or use a different restroom or step off the sidewalk when a white went by or risk getting killed if I whistled at a black woman or made to serve my master morning 'til night.

    Very different circumstances.
    Is it really different Maggie? Playing Devil's Advocate here. Up into the 1960's/70's you consistently heard whites utilizing the "N" word to reference any/all blacks, regardless of their background. This is how the word came to reference such strong negative connotations. Somewhere along the line, blacks began to refer to themselves by the very same word and as the civil rights movement progressed they developed new words to refer to whites.

    While you may have never been enslaved or made to sit in the back of a bus or had to step aside to allow a black to pass, as they did for us. Please bear in mind that these words were all developed to refer to another race in a negative manner. They are meant to incite anger out of those they are direct towards. If I, as a white man, were to walk into the back streets of Harlem (I've actually been there) and yell the "N" word it is unlikely that I would make it out "safely". There is strong suggestion that I would be severely injured if not killed. I would be 100% guilty of utilizing speech to drive people to action in a manner that goes above and beyond civil unrest. The very test that determines whether speech should be censored or not and was put down as the test in Terminillo vs. Chicago (US Supreme Court, you can look up the year and all of that.) This means I'd be guilty of inciting a riot and subject to prosecution, not those who attacked.

    However, if a black individual were to come into my neighborhood and begin to scream the words honkie or cracker or another derogatory term and the whites were driven to anger we would more than likely be seen as comitting a hate crime against the black or incited us as the majority of jurisdictions do not view those words as being inflammatory even though they have pretty much the same meaning.

    This is highly evident in movies & TV where you see blacks referring to one another with the "N" word and whites in a manner that depicts a negative connotation, while knowing full well that they would be in any group that attacked a white for doing exactly the same thing. Is it a double standard? Yes, it is in my mind.

    Let's move this a little further though, to maybe bring it home a little better. Have you ever seen a caucasian child grow up in a majority minority area, to be the only caucasian? This child is subjected daily to the attacks from the minority children utilizing the very words that we laugh at. These child who will taunt the caucasian are never charged with a hate crime, they are only told to knock it off at best. However, let that little caucasian child slip one time and utilize the "N" word or call a Mexican child a "spic" or an Arab child a "towel head" and they will immediately be reprimanded for racism and potentially utilizing hate language.

    We bust our behinds to teach caucasian children to not utilize these words and that everyone is created equal, yet the minorities that we have fought so hard to protect are the very ones that find humor in slamming the caucasian race.

    Remember, racism knows no race when it victimizes.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    I cringe at jokes about the Holocaust or racist jokes, but you have every legal right to say them.


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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I should have made my comment clearer:



    sorry, couldn't resist.
    I guess you're just wrong all over the place. Also, I'm not on the far right.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But black comedians also make fun of themselves and their race daily...look at the Wayans Brothers and early Jamie Foxx and Edie Murphy. Didn't Richard Pryor do that too, a bit before my time. The only problem I have is that Whites aren't allowed to make fun of anybody, because that is racist, but other races can make fun of whites, as Eddie Murphy did in his classic SNL sketch, "White Like Us" or whatever that was titled... Mr. White. The bus scene, the banker just giving him money... classic.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Actually I've listen to a lot of black comedians joke about blacks, and make jokes about stereotypical black things. So I don't think there's a big problem out there.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Actually I've listen to a lot of black comedians joke about blacks, and make jokes about stereotypical black things. So I don't think there's a big problem out there.
    Chris Rock hates everybody as much as everybody hates him.

    There's a lot of racism going on. Who's more racist, black people or white people? It's black people! You know why? Because we hate black people too! Everything white people don't like about black people, black people really don't like about black people ,and there's two sides, there's black people and theres niggas. The niggas have got to go. You can't have **** when you around niggas, you can't have ****. You can't have no big screen TV! You can have it, but you better move it in at 3 in the morning. Paint it white, hope niggas think it's a bassinet. Can't have **** in your house! Why?! Because niggas will break into your house. Niggas that live next door to you break into your house, come over the next day and go, "I heard you got robbed." Nigga, you know you robbed me. You didn't see **** 'cause you was doing ****! You can't go see a movie, you know why? 'Cause niggas is shooting at the screen, "This movie's so good I gotta bust a cap in here!" You know the worst thing about niggas? Niggas always want credit for some **** they supposed to do. A nigga will brag about some **** a normal man just does. A nigga will say some **** like, "I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb mother****er! What kind of ignorant **** is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having mother****er!
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    I like to tell this joke to my Catholic friends (actually they sometimes use this joke)


    There was a priest on his 1st day on the job. His first parishioner came into confession. He said "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned."

    "What is your sin my son?"

    "My wife and I love anal sex, but I know the Bible says its wrong."

    The Priest agreed that it was wrong, but couldn't think of an appropriate penance.

    "One moment please...." the Priest said. Just then he left the confessional and began looking for the Deacon so he could find out what penance to give. He had looked everywhere and was beginning to get really worried. Just then he saw an altar boy.

    "Excuse me my son, I'm on my first confessional, and I'm not sure what penance to give. Do you know what the Deacon usually gives for anal sex?"

    The altar boy quickly replied, "I don't know, a Snickers bar and a coke?"
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Chris Rock hates everybody as much as everybody hates him.
    I don't hate him.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    We see it on TV and in the movies everyday. A black comedian or a black sitcom or a black movie. They move directly into bashing on whites, calling them honkies, crackers and other derogatory terms. Often times they'll have whites appear to be ignorant about the world around them and so on.

    They're are even stations, BET, that tailor a large segment of their broadcasts are directed right at this type of comedy.

    So, should this be allowed or is this another type of racism? Should whites be allowed to launch all white networks, such as WET, that target their jokes towards blacks?

    Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?
    This post reminds me of the Tosh.O episode with Average Homeboy...

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So, who is n ow forced to sit in the back of the bus, sleep in a different hotel, or drink out of separate fountains, or use a different restroom, or step off the sidewalk when a white went by....?

    Sure, historically these things did happen; but currently do not. No one alive today has had to face that if they were born in the US.

    The reason there is now a big difference between nigger and cracker is that people today keep insisting that there is a big difference between the two. Racists.
    There is a difference because one has historical connotations that other doesn't have...

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