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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    You answered your own question there, black people have black skin, white people have white skin.
    What level of melanin denotes a "black" person? What of a white? What of a "white" person who tans enough to get above this arbitrary threshold? Are they now "black"? What of "black" people who are light skinned and fall below this arbitrary threshold? Are they now white?

    Are you now going to try to be the first person in history to finally define the distinctions between races, here on this message board, where thousands - perhaps millions - of others have tried and failed?

    Race in humans is exactly the same concept as breeds in dogs
    Except it's not similar at all. The fact that you'd dredge up this tired old pseudo-argument is telling of your complete lack of knowledge on what you're attempting to discuss.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    What level of melanin denotes a "black" person? What of a white? What of a "white" person who tans enough to get above this arbitrary threshold? Are they now "black"? What of "black" people who are light skinned and fall below this arbitrary threshold? Are they now white?

    Are you now going to try to be the first person in history to finally define the distinctions between races, here on this message board, where thousands - perhaps millions - of others have tried and failed?
    Well melanin content isn't the only indicator, there's facial structure, predisposition to diseases, physical build etc. You're being deliberately obtuse, the concept of race isn't built upon an individual, but on a population, if a single individuals traits vary, it's a mutation, or a different gene being expressed to what normally is, if a population of a given geographical area exhibits a trait, then it's a racial trait. Perhaps, if there's no scientific basis for race, you can tell me why the indigenous population of Somalia doesn't exhibit the same skin colour characteristics of the indigenous population of Germany. After all, if there's no race, then surely the genes for that can spring up anywhere?

    Except it's not similar at all. The fact that you'd dredge up this tired old pseudo-argument is telling of your complete lack of knowledge on what you're attempting to discuss.
    What's the difference then? Why does a group of phenotypic variations unique to a given area denote a different breed in dogs, but not in humans?
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    What level of melanin denotes a "black" person? What of a white? What of a "white" person who tans enough to get above this arbitrary threshold? Are they now "black"? What of "black" people who are light skinned and fall below this arbitrary threshold? Are they now white?
    Define the color yellow.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Well melanin content isn't the only indicator, there's facial structure, predisposition to diseases, physical build etc.
    What facial structure does the indigenous population of Somalia have in common? What physical build does the indigenous population of Germany have in common?

    You're being deliberately obtuse, the concept of race isn't built upon an individual, but on a population
    No, the concept of race is taking obvious observances and abstracting out unrealistic conclusions based on broad and unsubstantiated generalizations.

    Perhaps, if there's no scientific basis for race, you can tell me why the indigenous population of Somalia doesn't exhibit the same skin colour characteristics of the indigenous population of Germany.
    Differing general traits such as skin pigmentation over geographic expanses does not equal races existing.

    You apparently think a group of people that look the same denotes a race.

    After all, if there's no race, then surely the genes for that can spring up anywhere?
    I wouldn't bring genetics into this, you're already struggling as it is and I'm trying to save you the trouble of looking like too much of a dunce.

    What's the difference then?
    Domestic dog breeds have a high level of genetic isolation and differentiation between breeds due to, you know, domestication. Blacks and whites have more in common than different breeds of dog due to endogamous breeding. Also, different breeds of dogs are not different species, they all fall under the same subspecies.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Define the color yellow.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    I'll focus on the important bits here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Differing general traits such as skin pigmentation over geographic expanses does not equal races existing.
    That's the entire concept of race, that a geographic area leads to selection of certain advantageous traits over less advantageous traits, and the population of that area shares those traits, hence they become a distinct race. In the broadest terms, it's whites have white skin to be able to get more vitamin D is colder climates, blacks have black skin to offer more protection against the sun in warmer climates.

    You're just flatly denying this because you don't want to acknowledge it.

    Domestic dog breeds have a high level of genetic isolation and differentiation between breeds due to, you know, domestication. Blacks and whites have more in common than different breeds of dog due to endogamous breeding. Also, different breeds of dogs are not different species, they all fall under the same subspecies.
    But you said that different traits over an area don't make a race, and here you're saying it does, that genetic isolation makes breeds in dogs, but nor races in humans, make up your mind already. Or perhaps it's the level of genetic difference, so if I were to breed a Labrador with a Chihuahua, and then keep breeding the offspring which Chihuahuas, at what specific level of genetic similarity would it stop being a Labrador x Chihuahua and become a Chihuahua?
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
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    And what is 254-255-0?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    I'll focus on the important bits.

    That's the entire concept of race, that a geographic area leads to selection of certain advantageous traits over less advantageous traits, and the population of that area shares those traits, hence they become a distinct race.
    The bold part does not follow.

    You're just flatly denying this because you don't want to acknowledge it.
    What is Tiger Woods?

    But you said that different traits over an area don't make a race, and here you're saying it does, that genetic isolation makes breeds in dogs, but nor races in humans, make up your mind already.
    No, I am not. I am saying that breeding dogs causes distinct breeds to emerge based on "pure-breeding". For your argument to be true (i.e. that different "breeds" of humans exist) we would need to pure-breed humans in order to genetically isolate them from one another. Unfortunately for you (and the white power movement in general), humans never were "pure-bred". You are dismissing this difference as if it is of no importance when it completely discredits your dated argument.

    Or perhaps it's the level of genetic difference, so if I were to breed a Labrador with a Chihuahua, and then keep breeding the offspring which Chihuahuas, at what specific level of genetic similarity would it stop being a Labrador x Chihuahua and become a Chihuahua?
    I think this is a question that you need to answer. Better yet, please identify what race this man is:

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    And what is 254-255-0?
    You tell me. Better yet, draw a line on this color chart of where yellow starts and stops:

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Finally an interesting discussion.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The racial IQ gap does not exist because race does not exist in any meaningful scientific form.
    This is what is called a non-sequitur. I agree that the concept of race doesn't really have any substance when it comes to scientific validity. But the IQ gap is still there. What's troubling is many people seem content with the theory that this means that somehow blacks are inherently stupider.
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