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Thread: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    What's the point you're trying to make?
    I'm asking you to defend your thesis statement - "Black Americans do not have that history in the United States. It doesn't take a few Civil Rights Acts and 40 years to establish that tradition."

    That's testable. If it is American society which is the cause of African Americans not having "that history" in the United States, then you should have no problem in showing us other black nations where there is a rich history of their citizens having "that history."

    Do I really need to spell this out for you? You're asserting a cause and effect relationship. The cause, you assert, is that American society has robbed the black community in the US of this cultural feature. This being the case, when we look at other cultures then we remove the cause you assert is instrumental in creating the effect. By removing the cause, US culture, you should find ample evidence of black cultures all around the world which have rich traditions of valuing education and scholarship.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Most jews today weren't in concentration camps either. I dare you to make jokes about the holocaust.
    Just in case no one else said this joke.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    What's the point you're trying to make? Is this another one of your attempts to say that blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites 'cause that's getting old?
    Do you really think evolution left the overall intelligence of all races equally the same? Did evolution leave all variations of canine with equal intelligence? I thought rationalists followed science. IF science supports the notion that the overall intelligence of all races is NOT equal, then people should not pretend that we are all equal. People who believe in science should follow truth---not fantasy.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I'm asking you to defend your thesis statement - "Black Americans do not have that history in the United States. It doesn't take a few Civil Rights Acts and 40 years to establish that tradition."

    That's testable. If it is American society which is the cause of African Americans not having "that history" in the United States, then you should have no problem in showing us other black nations where there is a rich history of their citizens having "that history."

    Do I really need to spell this out for you? You're asserting a cause and effect relationship. The cause, you assert, is that American society has robbed the black community in the US of this cultural feature. This being the case, when we look at other cultures then we remove the cause you assert is instrumental in creating the effect. By removing the cause, US culture, you should find ample evidence of black cultures all around the world which have rich traditions of valuing education and scholarship.
    Your indulging in a fallacy here, it's not an either-or situation.

    And of course, your implication here that the level of scholarly success among blacks is dependent upon their race is a bit stupid too.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Jamesrage, as advice from one who appreciates your presence, I'd say you should delete that joke.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    People who believe in science should follow truth---not fantasy.
    And science says overwhelmingly that intelligence does NOT vary among "races" - which don't even exist as distinct groups according to "science". So if you believe that intelligence varies with race, then you've just put yourself in the fantasy category.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Your indulging in a fallacy here, it's not an either-or situation.
    I'm not engaging in any fallacy, I'm simply asking theplaydrive to provide evidence for his cause-effect hypothesis.

    And of course, your implication here that the level of scholarly success among blacks is dependent upon their race is a bit stupid too.
    My implication? That's theplaydrive's position.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    And science says overwhelmingly that intelligence does NOT vary among "races" - which don't even exist as distinct groups according to "science". So if you believe that intelligence varies with race, then you've just put yourself in the fantasy category.
    Both of those claims are disproven. You're the one who is talking fantasy.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I'm asking you to defend your thesis statement - "Black Americans do not have that history in the United States. It doesn't take a few Civil Rights Acts and 40 years to establish that tradition."

    That's testable. If it is American society which is the cause of African Americans not having "that history" in the United States, then you should have no problem in showing us other black nations where there is a rich history of their citizens having "that history."

    Do I really need to spell this out for you? You're asserting a cause and effect relationship. The cause, you assert, is that American society has robbed the black community in the US of this cultural feature. This being the case, when we look at other cultures then we remove the cause you assert is instrumental in creating the effect. By removing the cause, US culture, you should find ample evidence of black cultures all around the world which have rich traditions of valuing education and scholarship.
    Eh, the test is that historical emphasis on education in other cultures resulted in higher levels of education. You want me to test my argument about black Americans against other people of African descent as if "race" is a legitimate potential cause of the disparity. It's not - so if you're concerned with trying to prove or disprove that something is inherently lacking in blacks, you're going to have to do it for yourself because in most of the educated world, innate differences among "races" are not considered valid explanations for education disparities.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Both of those claims are disproven. You're the one who is talking fantasy.
    Actually, they're not. You just think they are because you live in an alternate reality.

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