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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah. It's called racism. It was here during slavery, it was here after slavery, and it was here not half a century ago in the form of Jim Crow laws. Racism is still with us today, it's just a lot milder and resides under the surface in the form of covert racism. Like I said before, nobody should use racism or slavery as an excuse for not trying their best or giving it their all. But that doesn't mean it hasn't affected their lives.
    You are an example of what I have been saying here.

    You referrence Jim Crow laws which were in maybe 10 states in the union. Did blacks in California get hung?

    Racism is everywhere but it is not the reason one group cannot achieve what they want.

    So you don't give a black guy a pass when he says he can't get a job because he is black?

    Is there any company denying jobs to black people? I don't think so.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Blacks are just flat angry. Nowhere on Earth do they flourish in big numbers. They're the single most universally unpopular people in human time, yet the human race sprang from east-central, African people, five million years ago. Personally, I believe the essence of the problem is the psychology of color. Dark skin literally scares the hell out of most people, whether they recognize it or not. It's not fair, but it's life. I'm not Black, but I know what it's like to be hated because of prejudice. I try hard to overcome prejudice within myself, but it's tough. If I have a racist bone in my body, it's 'defensive' racism, e.g., a reaction against being mistreated by non-Whites because I'm White.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Racism is everywhere but it is not the reason one group cannot achieve what they want.
    It's part of the reason there exists a disparity.

    So you don't give a black guy a pass when he says he can't get a job because he is black?
    It depends on whether or not there is any truth to his accusations. There might be, there might not.

    Is there any company denying jobs to black people? I don't think so.
    Subtle, covert discrimination exists.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are an example of what I have been saying here.

    You referrence Jim Crow laws which were in maybe 10 states in the union. Did blacks in California get hung?

    Racism is everywhere but it is not the reason one group cannot achieve what they want.

    So you don't give a black guy a pass when he says he can't get a job because he is black?

    Is there any company denying jobs to black people? I don't think so.
    1. There were Jim Crow laws in way more than ten states.
    2. California also had Jim Crow laws - specifically miscegenation laws.
    3. Black people were hung and lynched everywhere - including the North and California.
    4. Discrimination exists everywhere whether for race, sex, sexuality or other reasons.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    You've never been to Africa, have you?
    He hasn't been in the poor section of any inner city in the US either obviously.

    To get serious though. African descendants have an issue that goes well beyond Jim Crow laws, racism and US Slavery. People are extremely quick to forget a few things.

    1. Slave was abolished close to 150 years ago. There is noone alive now who was a US Slave owner or US Slave back then.
    2. Jim Crow laws were abolished almost 50 years ago, there are not a lot left today who were subjected to them. Some yes, but not a large percentage.
    3. African decendents have problems in all countries, not just the US.
    4. African-Americans kill more African-Americans through violence than any other cause when it comes to young African-American males. Why is that?
    5. Nigeria has spent decades in civil war after civil war amongst it's tribes, why is that?
    6. African has the oldest civilizations on the planet, yet it has the most 3 world and the least developed nations on the planet. Why is that?

    In the end it comes down to the fact that the African race has spent centuries committing violence against themselves in the form of tribal wars, they've committed nothing to the development of their own nations, as a race they commit more crimes in society than any other race, they spend more time in prison worldwide than any other race.

    When you speak of Asians you imagine individuals who are extremely respectful with high morales.
    When you speak of Jewish individuals you imagine high morals and dedication to all things they participate in.
    When you speak of Caucasians you imagine an individual dedicated to family and job.
    When you speak of Arabs you imagine an amazingly strong belief system coupled with high (though different) morals.

    But when you speak of an African you imagine guns, nigerian scams, civil unrest, Rodney King, locking your doors, crack and a myriad of other problems.

    Jim Crow laws, Slavery and racism did not cause this, it was an issue for the African race long before caucasians took any part in their world.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    My point was that all blacks are painted with the Jim Crow brush when only a small percentage of them lived in that area.

    Those days are used an excuse for all kinds of crap and it shouldn't.

    When did I saw people should stop talking about anything?

    I sadi stop using it as an excuse when it affect a small percentage of the whole population.
    The issue, here, is that you're thinking of 'the black people' - when you should be focused on all the 'redneck whites who never stopped being racist'
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    We see it on TV and in the movies everyday. A black comedian or a black sitcom or a black movie. They move directly into bashing on whites, calling them honkies, crackers and other derogatory terms. Often times they'll have whites appear to be ignorant about the world around them and so on.

    They're are even stations, BET, that tailor a large segment of their broadcasts are directed right at this type of comedy.

    So, should this be allowed or is this another type of racism? Should whites be allowed to launch all white networks, such as WET, that target their jokes towards blacks?

    Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?
    Yes it's racism, and it's hilarious, of course it should be allowed to continue.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    To get serious though. African descendants have an issue that goes well beyond Jim Crow laws, racism and US Slavery. People are extremely quick to forget a few things.

    1. Slave was abolished close to 150 years ago. There is noone alive now who was a US Slave owner or US Slave back then.
    2. Jim Crow laws were abolished almost 50 years ago, there are not a lot left today who were subjected to them. Some yes, but not a large percentage.
    3. African decendents have problems in all countries, not just the US.
    4. African-Americans kill more African-Americans through violence than any other cause when it comes to young African-American males. Why is that?
    5. Nigeria has spent decades in civil war after civil war amongst it's tribes, why is that?
    6. African has the oldest civilizations on the planet, yet it has the most 3 world and the least developed nations on the planet. Why is that?
    I'll just adress these 6 points, 'cause I'm lazy.

    1. Slave was abolished close to 150 years ago. There is noone alive now who was a US Slave owner or US Slave back then.
    2. Jim Crow laws were abolished almost 50 years ago, there are not a lot left today who were subjected to them. Some yes, but not a large percentage.
    That is true, but the effects of those still have a carry over effect, one of the biggest is the high amounts of xenophobia, and gangs, in majority black areas, these originated as a means of self defense for the blacks as a result of institutionalised racism.

    3. African decendents have problems in all countries, not just the US.
    I dunno about other countries, so we'll talk about mine, in Australia, we didn't let blacks in until about the 60's, and the biggest problems from blacks come not form those who have settles, but the recent refugees who have yet to integrate into Australian society, most violent gangs here are either Middle Eastern or Asian, so that prooves that point wrong.

    4. African-Americans kill more African-Americans through violence than any other cause when it comes to young African-American males. Why is that?
    Because if the gang culture that cam about as mentioned in my reply to the first point.

    5. Nigeria has spent decades in civil war after civil war amongst it's tribes, why is that?
    Because Europeans didn't take into consideration tribal boundaries when dividing the continent, tribalism is a big thing in Africa, akin to the nationalism in all the little Eastern European countries, you put a bunch of them in a soccer pitch, and they'll fling chairs at each other, imagine if you divided Eastern Europe along arbitary lines, and then expected Serbs and Croats to get along just fine, it wouldn't happen, and it's the same thing with tribalism in Africa, each one wants power to benefit their tribe, and no-one elses.

    6. African has the oldest civilizations on the planet, yet it has the most 3 world and the least developed nations on the planet. Why is that?
    That can be attributed to many causes; tribalism, colinialism, racism, drought, famine, AIDS, and bugger-all education are some of the factors, look at Ethiopia, it was one of the richest kingdoms in Africa, then it got hit by drought and Communism, now it's a **** hole.

    Keeping in mind this isn't a 'blame whitey' post, blacks themselves do much to perpetuate many of the problems, and shy away from potential remedies, but at the same time, many of these are also not the sole fault of blacks.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    He hasn't been in the poor section of any inner city in the US either obviously.

    To get serious though. African descendants have an issue that goes well beyond Jim Crow laws, racism and US Slavery. People are extremely quick to forget a few things.

    1. Slave was abolished close to 150 years ago. There is noone alive now who was a US Slave owner or US Slave back then.
    2. Jim Crow laws were abolished almost 50 years ago, there are not a lot left today who were subjected to them. Some yes, but not a large percentage.
    3. African decendents have problems in all countries, not just the US.
    4. African-Americans kill more African-Americans through violence than any other cause when it comes to young African-American males. Why is that?
    5. Nigeria has spent decades in civil war after civil war amongst it's tribes, why is that?
    6. African has the oldest civilizations on the planet, yet it has the most 3 world and the least developed nations on the planet. Why is that?

    In the end it comes down to the fact that the African race has spent centuries committing violence against themselves in the form of tribal wars, they've committed nothing to the development of their own nations, as a race they commit more crimes in society than any other race, they spend more time in prison worldwide than any other race.

    When you speak of Asians you imagine individuals who are extremely respectful with high morales.
    When you speak of Jewish individuals you imagine high morals and dedication to all things they participate in.
    When you speak of Caucasians you imagine an individual dedicated to family and job.
    When you speak of Arabs you imagine an amazingly strong belief system coupled with high (though different) morals.

    But when you speak of an African you imagine guns, nigerian scams, civil unrest, Rodney King, locking your doors, crack and a myriad of other problems.

    Jim Crow laws, Slavery and racism did not cause this, it was an issue for the African race long before caucasians took any part in their world.
    So in essence, you are arguing that something is inherently wrong with the African race? We have a word for that.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 04-29-11 at 02:50 AM.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Black comedians have every freedom to show the world just how racist they can be.

    It would be wrong to stop them, wrong to even censure them.

    It is equally wrong to censure any non-black comedian bashing blacks.

    That a double standard exists in the US is plain, and deplorable.

    What would be best, however, is if people started rewarding intelligent comedians who can come up with material indepdent of melanin levels.

    So long as enough stupid people exist, stupid comedians will exist to amuse them.

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