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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I don't want to keep going over the same ground.

    It is used as an explanation for somebody that doesn't want to get out there and do what they need to to get ahead. How does slavery explain that behaviour.

    I happen to be Jewish. Should I use the holocaust as an explanation for anything negative in my life? Maybe we should go back further and I should blame the Egyptians.

    If I fail at a business or anything I don't say it is because the germans killed millions.

    I think what you are saying is that as a group the blacks are just weak. Nothing happened to them that had not happened to the jews many times.

    There was aposter on another board that told me that he was denied a business deal because he was black. He couldn't tell me exactly what happened to make him think that.

    Maybe they just thought he was an ass.
    My boyfriend is Jewish and was born in Israel... His family was kicked out of two countries... He doesn't use the Holocaust as an excuse in life. His family was kicked of Europe before it happened. However, antisemiticism and the Holocaust does impact his life presently, as they play a large role in the existence of Israel and why is family is scattered all over the world.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If the Holocaust happened in America and America had a strong national tradition of anti-Semitism you might have a point.
    That is very true...

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    I think the Holocaust affects everybody just because of Middle East politics

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think the Holocaust affects everybody just because of Middle East politics
    Very true. The Jewish people needed a home because pretty much every else they went (besides the US and a few other countries) everybody wanted to kill them.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think the Holocaust affects everybody just because of Middle East politics
    This is very true. And technically whatever happened in the Middle East 2-3000 years ago affects everybody too since Israel uses that as justification for the creation of the Israeli state. So basically, history is a mother****er.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?



    Tim Wise here saying some pretty controversial stuff. I don't agree with everything he says, but if you watch the first 12 minutes or so you'll get a better idea of why slavery and racism are still with us.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If the Holocaust happened in America and America had a strong national tradition of anti-Semitism you might have a point.
    So the US has a strong national tradition of anti-black sentiment? Do you think the whole country has that or just certain places?

    That is a pretty bold thing to say that the whole country is anit-black.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My boyfriend is Jewish and was born in Israel... His family was kicked out of two countries... He doesn't use the Holocaust as an excuse in life. His family was kicked of Europe before it happened. However, antisemiticism and the Holocaust does impact his life presently, as they play a large role in the existence of Israel and why is family is scattered all over the world.
    And soes he use that as an excuse every time something bad happens to him?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    So the US has a strong national tradition of anti-black sentiment? Do you think the whole country has that or just certain places?

    That is a pretty bold thing to say that the whole country is anit-black.
    Yeah. It's called racism. It was here during slavery, it was here after slavery, and it was here not half a century ago in the form of Jim Crow laws. Racism is still with us today, it's just a lot milder and resides under the surface in the form of covert racism. Like I said before, nobody should use racism or slavery as an excuse for not trying their best or giving it their all. But that doesn't mean it hasn't affected their lives.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    And soes he use that as an excuse every time something bad happens to him?
    He was in a seven car pile up, and his car was totaled. That's a "bad thing" and he didn't blame that on the Holocaust.

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