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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Who uses the revolutionary war as an excuse for anything?
    You missed my point. Why should people stop talking about the legacies of negative aspects of history (slavery, Jim Crow) but not about the legacies of positive aspects of history (Revolutionary War, the Enlightenment, etc.)?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    America uses it as an excuse for being not British.
    I don' think that is an excuse so much as it is the end result.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You missed my point. Why should people stop talking about the legacies of negative aspects of history (slavery, Jim Crow) but not about the legacies of positive aspects of history (Revolutionary War, the Enlightenment, etc.)?
    My point was that all blacks are painted with the Jim Crow brush when only a small percentage of them lived in that area.

    Those days are used an excuse for all kinds of crap and it shouldn't.

    When did I saw people should stop talking about anything?

    I sadi stop using it as an excuse when it affect a small percentage of the whole population.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    My point was that all blacks are painted with the Jim Crow brush when only a small percentage of them lived in that area.

    Those days are used an excuse for all kinds of crap and it shouldn't.

    When did I saw people should stop talking about anything?

    I sadi stop using it as an excuse when it affect a small percentage of the whole population.
    Just because slavery has ended doesn't mean it's legacy isn't still with us. If slavery hadn't happened, America's demographic and socioeconomic landscape would look a hell of a lot different than it does today, just like if we hadn't won the Revolutionary War we would still be British citizens.

    The difference is that when we talk about the Revolutionary War, we talk about how great it was that we won it and become an independent country. When people (blacks and liberals) talk about the negative aspects of slavery and how it still affects us today, they are perceived as whining and are told to get over it.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 04-28-11 at 11:16 PM.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    If blacks caan call us whitey etc we should be able to make jokes about Sambo and Aunt Jamima and niggers. After all equal treatment.

    I like any race baiting jokes.
    Tosh.o and South Park make fun of everybody... all races, but if Tosh said "nigger" and was outright racist that would be different, and there is a difference between joking around and it sounding actually racist.

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Just because slavery has ended doesn't mean it's legacy isn't still with us. If slavery hadn't happened, America's demographic and socioeconomic landscape would look a hell of a lot different than it does today, just like if we hadn't won the Revolutionary War we would still be British citizens.
    Nobody that is alive today has been affected by slavery. If there is I would like to meet him/her.

    How is slavery still with us?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Who uses the revolutionary war as an excuse for anything?
    The Tea Party

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The Tea Party
    Really, you hear people talking about the revolutionary war? The war?

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Nobody that is alive today has been affected by slavery. If there is I would like to meet him/her.

    How is slavery still with us?
    I know this is from yahoo answers which you may or may not take seriously, but it gives some insight into what i'm talking about

    How does slavery effect the African Americans of today? - Yahoo! Answers

    The legacy of slavery had a direct effect on Jim Crow racism, and less overt colorblind institutional racism of today. It plays a role in the wealth/resource disparity between blacks in this country and everybody else. Blacks shouldn't use slavery as an excuse to not try hard and strive to do their best in life. Neither should whites claim that slavery has had no effect on African-Americans today, because it has. The effect slavery has had on African-Americans is no less than the effect that the Revolutionary War has had on all of us.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 04-28-11 at 11:22 PM.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    My point was that all blacks are painted with the Jim Crow brush when only a small percentage of them lived in that area.

    Those days are used an excuse for all kinds of crap and it shouldn't.

    When did I saw people should stop talking about anything?

    I sadi stop using it as an excuse when it affect a small percentage of the whole population.
    The problem is that you're calling it an excuse when it's actually an explanation of the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow and all historical racism in the U.S.. Those explanations are no more excuses than someone saying the Revolutionary War and the Enlightenment have left a legacy in our current society.

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