View Poll Results: Do you still have doubts that Obama was born in the U.S.?

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    Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    I hope this "issue" is finally put to rest, but I have a feeling this still isn't over...

    Obama releases original long-form birth certificate - CNN.com
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    so where exactly is the poll question?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I hope this "issue" is finally put to rest, but I have a feeling this still isn't over...

    Obama releases original long-form birth certificate - CNN.com
    Its a fake! Why else did it take him so long to do it?

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    so where exactly is the poll question?
    I can only type so fast!

    It's up now
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    I never had any doubts. Because of the fact I seriously doubt the democrat party would metaphorically **** themselves in the ass with a rough cut 4x4 board by deliberately propping up a non-natural born citizen to be president,that would be basically saying they do not want to win any more elections. And the fact the republican party and fox news would have been all over this like a fat bitch at all you can eat buffet if there was any credibility to the birther-tards claims.And I am pretty sure with our different government agencies someone would have checked to see if he really was born in the US.

    Obama shouldn't have released anything,all he did was give credence to conspiracy-retards.
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    I never doubted he was born in this country, but i did think he was likely hiding something b/c of the lack in response, but i don't think there was anything significant on the real birth certificate, was there?

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I never had any doubts. Because of the fact I seriously doubt the democrat party would metaphorically **** themselves in the ass with 4x4 rough cut board by deliberately propping up a non-natural born citizen to be president,that would be basically saying they do not want to win any more elections. And the fact the republican party and fox news would have been all over this like a fat bitch at all you can eat buffet if there was any credibility to the birther-tards claims.
    Well said, haha!
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I never doubted he was born in this country, but i did think he was likely hiding something b/c of the lack in response, but i don't think there was anything significant on the real birth certificate, was there?
    A few more details. I honestly don't think those details add a whole lot more substance to the pretty substance-less birther debate.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Obama's birth is not interesting, because more important is that he is a bad President for America.
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Does anybody have a readable copy of this thing online? Seriously, by the time they bring it up it's gone within seconds. Yahoo's copy isn't even readable. Is it legitmate or is this a copy and where is the "Copy" that is normally across every official copy you see?

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