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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    Does anybody have a readable copy of this thing online? Seriously, by the time they bring it up it's gone within seconds. Yahoo's copy isn't even readable. Is it legitmate or is this a copy and where is the "Copy" that is normally across every official copy you see?
    Why? So you can use your nonexistent document verifying skills to critique it?

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    And if this thread is not proof that Obama cannot win, I do not know what is. Birthers are saying, "OMG the copy got taken down too fast and I didn't get to look at it!". Conservatives are just making snide comments (as they always do so well) such as, "It doesn't change the fact that I think Obama is a dick!"

    How about sit back, quit crying, and just admit that on this one ****ing issue there is nothing you can say except Obama is in the right.
    Last edited by whysoserious; 04-27-11 at 06:18 PM.

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Why WSS, let's play with if this is real or fake for a moment.

    His short form was number 151 1961 10641

    His long form is numbered 151 61 10641

    Can you explain the discrepancy in the way they are numbered?

    Straight up, until today I didn't give a care less about this, now I'm kinda curious about it. I'll even ignore the Nordak twins for a moment on this one and let's just go with the document itself.

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    Why WSS, let's play with if this is real or fake for a moment.

    His short form was number 151 1961 10641

    His long form is numbered 151 61 10641

    Can you explain the discrepancy in the way they are numbered?

    Straight up, until today I didn't give a care less about this, now I'm kinda curious about it. I'll even ignore the Nordak twins for a moment on this one and let's just go with the document itself.
    The same way years are abbreviated to the last two digits.
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    So the "short form" gets the full year and the "long form" gets the year abbreviation? I'm pretty sure this number is specifically the recording number at the Health Department. Does anyone know what the guidelines were for numbering the forms in 1961? Do they still use the same exact system or has it evolved? If it evolved (say for Y2K, when did it evolve?)

    I think it would be fun to see some BC's from the same health department office in 1961 and later. Both short & long form BC's.

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    I never had doubts that Obama was born in the US. If I were him I wouldn't have caved into the desires of Trump and extremists by exposing my long form birth certificate. However, now there is proof for the skeptics that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii. Those that deny it can grab their tinfoil and sit in the corner with the truthers.
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    Why WSS, let's play with if this is real or fake for a moment.

    His short form was number 151 1961 10641

    His long form is numbered 151 61 10641

    Can you explain the discrepancy in the way they are numbered?

    Straight up, until today I didn't give a care less about this, now I'm kinda curious about it. I'll even ignore the Nordak twins for a moment on this one and let's just go with the document itself.
    Remember how before the year 2000, nobody thought that writing the year in two digits was a big deal?

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Blindly following is what got the US into this mess. Ever since WWII the US population has blindly followed the leadership and accepted whatever it and the press had to say. Perhaps it is time that we begin to think for ourselves and ask these questions.

    Like I said before, up until he released the long form I had no concern either way on this. I automatically assumed it was legitimate and those who questioned it were whining. After all, why wouldn't something this important be confirmed prior to putting him on the ballot?

    But then again, has this question ever had to of been asked about any President since the first few?

    As far as asking about the differences in the short vs. long form numbering and if/when did Hawaii change their numbering system is simply smart debate. To ramble that I believe or don't believe without finding the proof on a question that is easy prove or disprove, yet so important, would be ludicrous. Can you honestly tell me that if it was proven that he was NOT born in HI, that you would still want him sitting in the most sacred political office in the US? Come on, our forefathers felt so strongly about this that they made it a requirement to hold the office. Be US born or don't even attempt to be President. Their reasoning for this was simple, in order to lead one must be loyal to that which they are leading. If one is born in another country & immigrates to the US then they may hold loyalties elsewhere.

    Of course, there is another flipside to this coin. That is that any person born to a US Citizen, regardless of their country of birth, is in fact a US Born citizen in that they achieve citizenship without question at the time of birth. So, with that in mind, if his mother is a US Citizen then his citizenship was pre-determined prior to birth and being born in another country would have no effect whatsoever on his nationality. If he was born in say, Kenya, it would not matter.

    So, before you toss that tinfoil on my head digsbe review the entire scenario and obtain all your information.

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    I always thought this whole "birther" thing was nonsense, and that he was a natural-born citizen, thus qualified...As an aside, I didn't think you had to be born on US soil to be natural born?

    Whatever.

    Despite my thinking that it was nonsense (after I first heard about it and did a little research, that is), I've always allowed for the extremely remote possibility in everything - in this case, I would put "birther" claims on the same level as, say, Obama being the leader of an invading force of space aliens - while an extremely vague possibility, still a possibility...

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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    Does anybody have a readable copy of this thing online? Seriously, by the time they bring it up it's gone within seconds. Yahoo's copy isn't even readable. Is it legitmate or is this a copy and where is the "Copy" that is normally across every official copy you see?
    President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate | The White House
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    Re: Obama Releases Birth Certificate

    That is not Obama's birth certificate. Everybody knows that, in Africa, birth certificates are made out of zebra skins. Therefore, the one that he showed, that is made out of paper, is a fake. The doctor's signature is also a fake. It is really Hawaii Republican governor Linda Lingle who signed it, after she converted to Islam, and swore a blood oath to help Obama turn the United States into an Islamic caliphate.
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