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    Guamtanamo Bay

    With the recent release of files from Wikileaks, spilling dirt on Guantanamo, many people are getting very angry; and many of the conspiracies about the prison have been confirmed by these releases.

    Here are links:

    Guantanamo Bay files leak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Guantanamo Files

    The Guantanamo Files - NYTimes.com

    Should Guantanamo be closed?
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    I think you can find general public record regarding county, state, and federal prisoners who were wrongfully detained or convicted based on "wrong place, wrong time" situations or unreliable witness testimony. Not saying that Gitmo has been a pillar of fair treatment, but there are plenty of n'er do-wells shacked up there that I don't want anywhere near impressionable prisoners here in the states who are already being conditioned for lives of continued crime in the "pen".
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think you can find general public record regarding county, state, and federal prisoners who were wrongfully detained or convicted based on "wrong place, wrong time" situations or unreliable witness testimony. Not saying that Gitmo has been a pillar of fair treatment, but there are plenty of n'er do-wells shacked up there that I don't want anywhere near impressionable prisoners here in the states who are already being conditioned for lives of continued crime in the "pen".
    I highly doubt that there is such a high rate of unfair incarcerations in any other US prison.
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    I highly doubt that there is such a high rate of unfair incarcerations in any other US prison.
    I think "unfair" is relative to the situation. I suspect that what I would consider "fair" or "appropriate" would differ greatly from what you would classify in a similar manner.
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    Gitmo most likely isn't getting closed anytime soon. At least not for another year.

    I personally think that it should stay open til at least someone comes up with a better idea of keeping prisoners of war and suspected, non-US citizen terrorists.

    As for alleged abuse, I would say that we should probably ensure that the information is accurate and deal with the situation the best we can.
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    Gitmo's a damn sight better than bringing accused terrorists to the US.

    Edit: Besides, I skimmed one of the links above (the middle one) and didn't see anything particularly shocking, especially since the article is putting it's own spin on what it all means instead of letting folks figure it out for themselves.
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think "unfair" is relative to the situation. I suspect that what I would consider "fair" or "appropriate" would differ greatly from what you would classify in a similar manner.
    So what are the definitions then? To get this straight. Cause I'd like to make sure innocent folk aren't really confined to Gitmo. But there's lots of misinformation out there, people saying that they're all picked up on the "battlefield", things of that nature. Turns out not to be really true. When you offer a high bounty on information and whereabouts of terrorists; it turns out you find a lot of "terrorists". Not so much because they're all actually terrorists, but more because folk like the money and given enough cash, people will sell out their neighbors for whatever you say.

    In the end, the very questionable circumstances which surround Gitmo and the people incarcerated within really raise a lot of doubts and concerns over what it is that our government is really doing. It's ok to question, it's ok to wonder. We don't need to accept everything on the blind faith of the government that the government is doing nothing wrong.

    I'd love Gitmo to be closed ASAP. Won't happen, but I'd love it.
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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    I thought that place was supposed to be closed if early 2009. What happened to that plan?

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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I thought that place was supposed to be closed if early 2009. What happened to that plan?

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    Re: Guamtanamo Bay

    The legal/detention issue is the only problem i could ever see barring that craphole from being closed. There will be ghosts there.

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