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Thread: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This poll is highly manipulative.

    The reason why the federal government is able to outlaw prostitution is because the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce. That includes making some forms of interstate commerce illegal. Such as prostitution.

    Now I say this despite supporting the legalization of prostitution. The criminalization of prostitution is constitutional. However, despite that it's a bad idea to do so. It's much better and safer and healthier to regulate it - which Congress can do since it's constitutional for them to regulate interstate commerce.
    How is prostitution interstate commerce? If I live in a state and the hooker resides and works in the same said state, how is that interstate? Even when I cross a state line to buy something in that other state, it's not considered interstate commerce. Most interstate commerce, as I understand it, is business to bussiness, with internet sales now coming into the picture. This sounds like that decision that farmers who don't put their product on the market are engaging in interstate commerce....utter BS.

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I consider it very much my business. I'm a person that won't let someone commit siuicde.
    By what standard is it your business that you consider justified in violating privacy and the right to deny a private transaction? As to your second line, are you saying that you would rather let a person dying of a terminal illness, who is in immense pain, to either suffer through that pain or "live" the remainder of their days in a drug induced coma, instead of allowing them an early release?

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Welcome to the most abused clause.


    Those hookers use stuff that is produced in other states, right? Part of their business is interstate, eh?

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Welcome to the most abused clause.


    Those hookers use stuff that is produced in other states, right? Part of their business is interstate, eh?
    With that logic then there is nothing that is not interstate commerce related.

    The actual business of hooking itself is not interstate. If a drug store buys stuff via interstate means, the transportation and the manufacture aspects are interstate and regulated, but what that drug store does locally is not subjected to interstate regulations because nothing is crossing state lines. This is not to say anything about the multi state chains, but the local stores.

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    How is prostitution interstate commerce? If I live in a state and the hooker resides and works in the same said state, how is that interstate? Even when I cross a state line to buy something in that other state, it's not considered interstate commerce. Most interstate commerce, as I understand it, is business to bussiness, with internet sales now coming into the picture. This sounds like that decision that farmers who don't put their product on the market are engaging in interstate commerce....utter BS.
    Okay, if the hooker is in doggie position, right on the state line with her mouth in PA and her arse in WV offering up both ends, I think that just might be interstate commerce. Of course, if she happens to have one hand across the MD state line and that is the hand that collects the money, Gawd is she gonna get taxed to death on that deal.

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by TDZ View Post
    It's the oldest profession in the world they say, prostitution. In some countries it totally legal. In other countries (mostly western and especially the United States except for Reno) it is illegal.

    The question is, under the United States Constitution, including all of the Amendments is it Constitutional or Unconstitutional for one to lease/rent their body out for the sexual pleasure of another?

    Since this is stupid post day, why not.
    Porno is legal - why not other means of sex as income?

    On the other hand - it is illegal to sell your bodyparts to someone else for their use as a transplant, etc - netting a black market of organs, etc. . . so I'm on the fence.
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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    And free!!!!!!
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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A person owns there body, it is their innate property. Prostitution should be legal, taxed, and unionized.
    But, according to the conservatives, a man and particularly a woman do NOT "own" their own body.
    And this, like so many other details, is NOT covered in the Constitution, nor should it be.

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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    But, according to the conservatives, a man and particularly a woman do NOT "own" their own body.
    And this, like so many other details, is NOT covered in the Constitution, nor should it be.
    How about "according to right-wing extremists". Many of us "conservatives" support the right to choose and encourage personal responsibility and accountability over one's own body.

    I would only deviate in the sense that "breeders" who leech off the system or chronic child-abusers should be sterilized.
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    Re: Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

    You know Tessa, I'm going with earthworm on this one. Women don't own their bodies in the "Conservative" platform viewpoint. Examples:

    1. Abortion - The Conservative Platform is strong in it's position on Pro-Life. It's not the Liberals trying to overturn Roe v Wade.

    2. Prostitution - It is a Conservative stance that Prostitution is illegal. If the Liberals had their way, Prostitution would be legalized and regulated, though it will never become part of the Liberal Platform due to how many it would alienate from voting for them.

    Now, in the Conservative camp if a woman owned her own body then they would have no position whatsoever on Abortion, in that it's totally up to the woman. In prostitution, where there is no "Forced Prostituion" only voluntary if a woman did own her body then she would be free to lease/rent/sell it off as she saw fit.

    In addition, neither party condones one destroying their own body. Both Platforms, in their own sense, are against substance abuse, self-multilation beyond piercings & tattoos, suicide, driving without a seatbelt and in some instances even helmet laws. If we truly "owned" our bodies then we would be totally free to do with them whatever we wanted regardless of the consequences to ourselves. Drug consumption would not be illegal if we did own them.

    So, does this mean the Declaration of Indepence's Preamble is a crock?

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
    I would counter that while the Constitution itself may not cover it, the Declaration of Independence does. If an individual, such as a nymphomaniac, is most happy when persuing sex for pay then to interfere via passing a law making it illegal does in effect violate the Declaration of Independence that this country was founded on. Wouldn't it be strange to see the people rise up against the gov't just because they couldn't participate in prostitution?

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