Prostitution: Constitutional or Unconstitutional? You Decide

ecofarm said:

Would you oppose prostitution based on it being taxed?

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A consumption tax? Not on those grounds, but certainly to oppose the income tax, yes.

It's not your body to sell when your pimp owns you.

Ikari said:

A person owns there body, it is their innate property. Prostitution should be legal, taxed, and unionized.

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That would probably be one of the least effective strikes ever. :lol:

Canell said:

America stands for freedom. So why not?

off// I'd rather worry about seat belts. If the government thinks you can kill somebody else with your own body flying over in a car accident, that's OK to have such a law. Otherwise I don't see why seat belts have to be mandatory.

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Actually someone brought up a point to me that changed my stance on this topic. With the seat belt on then the driver stays in the seat if the car goes out of control and give the driver a better chance of regaining some semblance of control to minimize damage and causalities. Maybe we should start a thread on this; I've not see one yet.

Kandahar said:

If "pro" is the opposite of "con," then isn't "prostitution" the opposite of "constitution"? And therefore unconstitutional? :mrgreen:

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GROAN! As a punmeister, I am shamed to admit that I did not come up with that before now.

Jerry said:

I would oppose prostitution just on that alone.

Unions need to stop existing.

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I'd rather a guild than a union.

Responding to the thread in general, I don't think there is anything in the constitution that would make laws rerostitution unconstitutional. As pointed out, if so then one could extend that to any kind of drug regulation being unconstitutional.

maquiscat said:

I'd rather a guild than a union.

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The human trafficking rings might be considered a guild.....

TDZ said:

It's the oldest profession in the world they say, prostitution. In some countries it totally legal. In other countries (mostly western and especially the United States except for Reno) it is illegal.

The question is, under the United States Constitution, including all of the Amendments is it Constitutional or Unconstitutional for one to lease/rent their body out for the sexual pleasure of another?

Since this is stupid post day, why not.

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I would say that prostitution is not unconstitutional. But at the same time there is no right to prostitution. Although the courts have ruled that as long as you video tape it and sell those tapes then it is a form of free speech.

Canell said:

America stands for freedom. So why not?

off// I'd rather worry about seat belts. If the government thinks you can kill somebody else with your own body flying over in a car accident, that's OK to have such a law. Otherwise I don't see why seat belts have to be mandatory.

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off// The answer to this and other questions is simple: Insurance companies want lower claims. The insurance industry in large part determines vehicle safety standards. We have helmet laws, because brain injuries are expensive, in states where there is no closed-toe shoe requirement. Even though foot/leg injuries are FAR more common in M/C accidents. Because the costs of leg injury claims don't justify the expenses involved in getting laws enacted. Lobbying , PR, etc..//

To the topic: Worlds oldest profession, should be grandfathered in by default as it predates every single civilization.

All laws based on the premise that someone doesn't like what someone else is doing should be banned outright. Period.

The whole "It could maybe, possibly, have a direct impact on me, so the risk is just too great" argument is pure tripe.

If the risk isn't real and demonstrable then liability should be placed on the responsible parties where applicable instead of banning some activity because its simply easier to do so.

Funny how some people REALLY need other people to live in a way that doesn't offend some set of morals or other. To the point where they lobby and fight constantly against SSM, sex education, or drugs, justified by what COULD happen as a result of some individuals actions.

And then fight adamantly against requiring businesses drilling for oil to be DAMN SURE they don't f*** up the whole Gulf of Mexico. (For instance)

Micro-level Authoritarians

Macro-level Libertarians

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Prostitution is none of the Federal governments business, unless the woman is lying across a state line and is performing a half and half, then it's interstate commerce.

It's probably being controlled by the Commerce clause. I can't think of any other relationship.

TDZ said:

It's the oldest profession in the world they say, prostitution. In some countries it totally legal. In other countries (mostly western and especially the United States except for Reno) it is illegal.

The question is, under the United States Constitution, including all of the Amendments is it Constitutional or Unconstitutional for one to lease/rent their body out for the sexual pleasure of another?

Since this is stupid post day, why not.

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It's not unconstitutional. It's legal in the state of Nevada.

Ikari said:

A person owns there body, it is their innate property. Prostitution should be legal, taxed, and unionized.

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And free!!!!!!

Whovian said:

And free!!!!!!

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Then it's not prostitution

Ikari said:

A person owns there body, it is their innate property. Prostitution should be legal, taxed, and unionized.

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So a teen from an abused home, who has been hooked on drugs, raped, beaten, and threatened with her life.....that should be legalized, according to you.

Immigrants brought into a country, their 'bosses' having taken their passports, are now Persona non grata, and are forced to prostitute to survive....you're saying society should support this.

See folks, this is why the Left have no business anywhere near a voting booth, and forget about holding public office.

Ikari said:

A person owns there body, it is their innate property. Prostitution should be legal, taxed, and unionized.

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Jerry said:

So a teen from an abused home, who has been hooked on drugs, raped, beaten, and threatened with her life.....that should be legalized, according to you.

Immigrants brought into a country, their 'bosses' having taken their passports, are now Persona non grata, and are forced to prostitute to survive....you're saying society should support this.

See folks, this is why the Left have no business anywhere near a voting booth, and forget about holding public office.

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You seem to not understand the difference between 'prostitution', and 'forced prostitution'.

Centrehalf said:

Prostitution is none of the Federal governments business, unless the woman is lying across a state line and is performing a half and half, then it's interstate commerce.

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I consider it very much my business. I'm a person that won't let someone commit siuicde.

Whovian said:

You seem to not understand the difference between 'prostitution', and 'forced prostitution'.

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I understand the issue. If you have point, you're welcome to make it.

Jerry said:

I understand the issue. If you have point, you're welcome to make it.

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I did.... and it sailed over your head.

Let me detail it for you.

NO ONE is saying 'forced prostituion', such as the examples you described, should be legal.

SOME are saying that 'prostitution', self decided, not forced in any way, shape or form, should be legal.

Hopefully that clears it up for you.

TDZ said:

It's the oldest profession in the world they say, prostitution. In some countries it totally legal. In other countries (mostly western and especially the United States except for Reno) it is illegal.

The question is, under the United States Constitution, including all of the Amendments is it Constitutional or Unconstitutional for one to lease/rent their body out for the sexual pleasure of another?

Since this is stupid post day, why not.

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This poll is highly manipulative.

The reason why the federal government is able to outlaw prostitution is because the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce. That includes making some forms of interstate commerce illegal. Such as prostitution.

Now I say this despite supporting the legalization of prostitution. The criminalization of prostitution is constitutional. However, despite that it's a bad idea to do so. It's much better and safer and healthier to regulate it - which Congress can do since it's constitutional for them to regulate interstate commerce.

Jerry said:

So a teen from an abused home, who has been hooked on drugs, raped, beaten, and threatened with her life.....that should be legalized, according to you.

Immigrants brought into a country, their 'bosses' having taken their passports, are now Persona non grata, and are forced to prostitute to survive....you're saying society should support this.

See folks, this is why the Left have no business anywhere near a voting booth, and forget about holding public office.

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Why should Left-wingers have no business anywhere near a voting booth and shouldn't hold public office because of the opinion of a Libertarian?

Whovian said:

I did.... and it sailed over your head.

Let me detail it for you.

NO ONE is saying 'forced prostituion', such as the examples you described, should be legal.

SOME are saying that 'prostitution', self decided, not forced in any way, shape or form, should be legal.

Hopefully that clears it up for you.

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Am I correct in understanding that we are still hung up on this naive idea that legalized prostitution does not lead to illegal human sex-slave trafficking? How many countries have tried this now? Even Netherlands regrets their decision.

This is like talking to Loosertarians who want to legalize Cocaine. It was legal before, and it ****ed us up, so we banned it. Prostitution takes a similar history.

samsmart said:

Why should Left-wingers have no business anywhere near a voting booth and shouldn't hold public office because of the opinion of a Libertarian?

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Because they're dangerous.

It is neither. It is for the States to regulate (and most of them do...)