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  • Libertarian: End All Entitlements

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  • Republican: Reduce Medicare Expenditures starting in 2022, but let Seniors decide where

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  • Democrat: Reduce Medicare Expenditures in 2014, and let an unelected political board decide where

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Thread: Between the Medicare Cutters

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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    geez. combined with swapping Social Security over to a ROTH-style plan... and saved up against your retirement...

    ....our biggest retiree issue would be that housing prices in Florida would be skyrocketing. we would literally be retiring entire generations of millionaires in real money.

    we could means-test Medicare and join it with Medicaid to cut redundancy - both of which would just subsidize the 'Low Income / High Risk HSAs', everyone would still be provided for; and we could concentrate what few dollars we have to spend on that exceedingly small percentage seniors who would actually need it....

    Long Term, we could lower government spending to 15% of the economy. 10%. Easily. Good God, can you imagine the economic boom?
    and yet we won't because we are so stupid

    aaaaarg, it's depressing seeing how awesome we could be, how many poor people we could lift out of poverty, how we could recapture our founding ideals..... and yet we wont. ....






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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Kandahar, you surprise me;

    why do you think that a board imposing one-size-fits-all decisions by fiat is better than means testing to allow for our poorer seniors to get more support, and then letting all seniors make their own allocative decisions?

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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    geez. combined with swapping Social Security over to a ROTH-style plan... and saved up against your retirement...

    ....our biggest retiree issue would be that housing prices in Florida would be skyrocketing. we would literally be retiring entire generations of millionaires in real money.

    we could means-test Medicare and join it with Medicaid to cut redundancy - both of which would just subsidize the 'Low Income / High Risk HSAs', everyone would still be provided for; and we could concentrate what few dollars we have to spend on that exceedingly small percentage seniors who would actually need it....

    Long Term, we could lower government spending to 15% of the economy. 10%. Easily. Good God, can you imagine the economic boom?
    You're insane, crazy, that will cause millions to die for some unknown cosmic reason.
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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and yet we won't because we are so stupid

    aaaaarg, it's depressing seeing how awesome we could be, how many poor people we could lift out of poverty, how we could recapture our founding ideals..... and yet we wont. ....






    In my lifetime CPwill theres been many just like you...telling me how fantastic this idea for change is...or that idea for change is...if WE WOULD ONLY DO THIS it would end all world problems as we know it...they have ALL been fail...ive been sold a bill of goods so many times using contrived math and scare tactics...I find most all of it to be created BS by a special interest group big or small for their own gain...this time the group is 30-45 age demographic who believe their entitlement is ALL OF IT and everyone else is entitled to squat...they live with the belief if your not rich its because your a lazy piece of ****, if you work for a living that living is what THEY want to give you and nothing more, if your in a union you should die.....pffffffffffft....all you have to do is read some of the posts written not only on this forum but on others to see that come glaring through.
    Personally I dont buy the teaparty Rahm Emmanual war cry....never waste a crisis. Obama used that to spend insanely...the teaparty wants to use that to SHAFT everyone that works and lower their taxs to nothing...I dont buy either

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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You're insane, crazy, that will cause millions to die for some unknown cosmic reason.
    that doesn't need to be specified or defined, but certainly involves your elderly grandmother and an autistic kid being stabbed to death - as they lay in the snow - by the Koch brothers.

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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    In my lifetime CPwill theres been many just like you...telling me how fantastic this idea for change is...or that idea for change is...if WE WOULD ONLY DO THIS it would end all world problems as we know it..
    it wouldn't end all of our problems. Jesus said the poor will always be with you and I take Him at His Word. but it would just about solve this problem.

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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that doesn't need to be specified or defined, but certainly involves your elderly grandmother and an autistic kid being stabbed to death - as they lay in the snow - by the Koch brothers.
    You're so devilish.
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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You're so devilish.
    see.... we laugh... but it's probably actually a 50/50 shot that that will be a Democrat campaign add in 2012.

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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just checked, I still do not have a vagina.
    There are other humans you know. It's not all about just you. Your concerns for your female humans should be no different than your own.

    Ya know like " I don't get pregnant so I;m not paying," NO,
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    Re: Between the Medicare Cutters

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    There are other humans you know. It's not all about just you. Your concerns for your female humans should be no different than your own.
    oh, believe us. we are very interested in vaginas. it's just that we don't happen to have any.

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