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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I hope this happens. I would support their actions 100%, dont really care if they come off as "assholes" they are just gonna do what people wish would happen and prove a very strong point.
    what people? Other assholes?
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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    well, there you have it. air tight proof that they are actually "brats"
    no way could the green eyed monster be responsible for your unkind characterization [/sarcasm]
    Are you going to debate or just accuse me of being jealous? I dislike them for their use of public funds and the fact that they are a drain to the UK taxpayers. It angers me that they suck up the funds of the public to live a lavish life simply for being born.
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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Are you going to debate or just accuse me of being jealous? I dislike them for their use of public funds and the fact that they are a drain to the UK taxpayers. It angers me that they suck up the funds of the public to live a lavish life simply for being born.
    At least that one guy joined the Army for a bit. I'm sure he was protected, but he can't really control all that.
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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    I have no interest whatsoever in 'the Royal Wedding' (why should I; The people concerned are not my friends, and I have never met them,) and I would rather be sold for medical experiments than watch the event on the idiot box.

    However, the assumption that they are 'spoiled brats' is not substantiated at any level.

    First off, Prince William at 29, is 12 years older than me, and nearly middle-aged, and Kate Middleton is not much younger, so they could hardly be described as 'brats' (i.e: children).

    Secondly, William's father, Prince Charles, is one of the wealthiest men in Britain, and, as the Duke of Cornwall, is in receipt of the income from the Duchy of Cornwall, and a well managed estate that covers over 54,000 hectares. His offspring are not maintained by the British public, but by his private fortune.

    The Civil List is received by the Monarch to pay for the maintenance of the Royal Palaces, The Guards, the Household Cavalry, travel and the entertaining of foreign dignitaries, etc. It is not used for Royal Weddings.

    I would not swap places with William, or his brother. They have had a terrible life - torn between their mother and father - and everything they do or say appears in the tabloids. They may have a number of what we may consider privileges and luxuries, but they have no lives of their own.

    I do not envy them one bit. I consider myself much more fortunate. I come from a middle class family who is comfortably off. I am getting a good education, and I will pursue a professional career of my own choosing when I complete my formal education. I will be free to love and marry who I choose, and nobody other than my immediate family and friends will make a judgement on my choice of partner. I am a metaphorical King compared to William and Harry.

    So no, I will not be taking any interest in the Royal Wedding.
    Last edited by Leo; 04-23-11 at 02:01 PM.
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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Are you going to debate or just accuse me of being jealous? I dislike them for their use of public funds and the fact that they are a drain to the UK taxpayers. It angers me that they suck up the funds of the public to live a lavish life simply for being born.
    You do sound a little bitter about something that really doesn't effect Americans.
    The British who support them seem to adore them so its their tax money.

    We have the super rich here in America who through loopholes can avoid taxes and remotely live off money that belongs to the US government.

    There is this "Star" worshipping of the Royal Family that we do also of our celebs and sports stars.
    I know it isn't public funds but look how Bristol Palin has fared just being the daughter of one of those "Stars".

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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I have no interest whatsoever in 'the Royal Wedding' (why should I; The people concerned are not my friends, and I have never met them,) and I would rather be sold for medical experiments than watch the event on the idiot box.

    However, the assumption that they are 'spoiled brats' is not substantiated at any level.

    First off, Prince William at 29, is 12 years older than me, and nearly middle-aged, and Kate Middleton is not much younger, so they could hardly be described as 'brats' (i.e: children).

    Secondly, Williams father, Prince Charles, is one of the wealthiest men in Britain, and, as the Duke of Cornwall, is in receipt of the income from the Duchy of Cornwall - a well managed estate that covers over 54,000 hectares. His offspring are not maintained by the British public, but by his private fortune.

    The Civil List is received by the Monarch to pay for the maintenance of the Royal Palaces, The Guards, the Household Cavalry, travel and the entertaining of foreign dignitaries, etc. It is not used for Royal Weddings.

    I would not swap places with William, or his brother. They have had a terrible life - torn between their mother and father - and everything they do or say appears in the tabloids. They may have a number of what we may consider privileges and luxuries, but they have no lives of their own.

    I do not envy them one bit. I consider myself much more fortunate. I come from a middle class family who is comfortably off. I am getting a good education, and I will pursue a professional career of my own choosing when I complete my formal education. I will be free to love and marry who I choose, and nobody other than my immediate family and friends will make a judgement on my choice of partner. I am a metaphorical King compared to William and Harry.

    So no, I will not be taking any interest in the Royal Wedding.
    Thanks for all the info. It would make sense that such a family with all their influence would have a personal fortune...

    I also agree. I wouldn't want their lives... the boys have had a difficult life, but William seems like a good guy so far.

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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Are you going to debate or just accuse me of being jealous? I dislike them for their use of public funds and the fact that they are a drain to the UK taxpayers. It angers me that they suck up the funds of the public to live a lavish life simply for being born.
    You are wrong. The Royal Family brings in a significant profit to the Uk. In return for an annual stipend, every monarch since Geroge the III has voluntarily chosen to give up all profits from the royal lands they won. The monarchy gets paid 40 million pounds vs the 210 million pounds from crown lands that goes to the government. Net profit, 170 million pounds. That doesn't even get into the extra money the monarchy brings in as part of the 7 billion pound per year tourism to GB.

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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Thanks for all the info. It would make sense that such a family with all their influence would have a personal fortune...

    I also agree. I wouldn't want their lives... the boys have had a difficult life, but William seems like a good guy so far.
    Thanks. I hear all these assumptions on both sides of the Atlantic, and I think people should know a few facts. One of which is that the House of Windsor basically receives the Civil List, which is currently set at 7.9 million per year. About 70 per cent of the Civil List expenditure goes on staff salaries. It also goes towards meeting the costs of official functions such as garden parties, receptions and official entertainment during State Visits. The Queen entertains almost 50,000 people each year. The Royal Household strives to be open and transparent, and details of expenditure are published in an Annual Summary and Annual Report.

    Offsetting that, the revenue surplus received by the Treasury from the Crown Estates (traditional property of the Monarch) each year is something over 200 million. So the British nation enjoys a considerable financial gain from having The House of Windsor as a Monarchy. And this is before the tourism generated by having the only fully maintained Monarchy still extant in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You are wrong. The Royal Family brings in a significant profit to the Uk. In return for an annual stipend, every monarch since Geroge the III has voluntarily chosen to give up all profits from the royal lands they won. The monarchy gets paid 40 million pounds vs the 210 million pounds from crown lands that goes to the government. Net profit, 170 million pounds. That doesn't even get into the extra money the monarchy brings in as part of the 7 billion pound per year tourism to GB.
    You are quite correct, but if you are referring to the Civil List, I understand it has been set at 7.9 million pounds annually, not 40 million. But there may be other (hidden) expenses associated with maintaining the Monarchy.
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    Re: The Royal Wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Do you care?

    Will you watch it?
    Paradoxically I don't care vehemently. I live in the Midlands and thousands of benefit/welfare claimants get married here every year, Im happy for them but these two are nothing special.
    Last edited by Red_Dave; 04-23-11 at 02:33 PM.

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