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  • He should remain in prison and tax payers should pay for his transpla.nt

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  • He should stay in prison and get the transplant if he can raise the money.

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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    If he is a convicted child molester, then all the more reason to give him a new heart. For all we know it could change his life for the better.

    I don't see why a person's mistakes in life should prevent them from being cared for.
    Because you're taking away somebody else's chance at life that did NOT molest a child. What if we were talking about a raging alcoholic and a liver transplant? Since there is a finite amount of available organs, doesn't that mean we have to make value judgments about where the transplant would do the most good?
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    He should be given a sex-change operation, the first half, the removal part, is free, but the second half, has to be done at his own expense.
    And he stays in prison for his full term.
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Because you're taking away somebody else's chance at life that did NOT molest a child. What if we were talking about a raging alcoholic and a liver transplant? Since there is a finite amount of available organs, doesn't that mean we have to make value judgments about where the transplant would do the most good?
    The child molester's heart is not failing because they are a child molester as an alcoholic's liver would fail because they are an alcoholic. That's beside the point anyway.

    Talking about where the transplanted heart would "do more good" is not up to you, or anyone really. Talking about things like that in terms of good and bad is only serving to overlook a human being who is in need. You have no idea what a heart transplant could mean for this PERSON.

    Using the identity of "child molester" is really begging the question, and trying to bait people away from the human being behind the issue.

    In other words, it's an emotional argument that is not based in anything that is actually happening right now.

    EDIT: Let me approach this from a different angle. Most people have done stuff in their lives that they are not proud of. But then, most of us do not have to wear that as an identity by force. If you ever needed a heart transplant, we wouldn't dig up your negative history and decide if you truly deserve one or not. You'd get one if it were available.
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post


    What if he were on death row (say he killed his victim)? Would your answer change?
    If all his appeals were over then probably, but if not, then no, because due process wouldn't have been completed.
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    Organ donation and transplants are a priviledge - not a right. . . and in fact, not so much even a priviledge as they are an odd medical arrangement.
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    I think the essential question is does denying him medical care violate the Constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment? You're essentially turning his prison term into a death sentence. However, in other cases the state tries to make an actual death sentence as quick and humane as possible. This is a slow and inhumane death.

    I'm not a Constitutional expert, but to me that's the most important consideration in this case.

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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    given our government is currently structured, even though i don't agree with it, he is obligated to get the heart transplant with taxpayer money. I would change the system instead of judging this single guy. I don't really think tax payers should be paying for peoples surgeries personally... unless in some specific instances of disability.

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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    He should be subject to the same rules as everyone else. Prisoners have their health taken care of by the state, so he should too. It's not up to a transplant committee to decide if a person is morally worthy of life, only if they are a sound medical choice. Besides, just because someone is convicted of a crime doesn't mean they actually did it.
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    The child molester's heart is not failing because they are a child molester as an alcoholic's liver would fail because they are an alcoholic. That's beside the point anyway.

    Talking about where the transplanted heart would "do more good" is not up to you, or anyone really. Talking about things like that in terms of good and bad is only serving to overlook a human being who is in need. You have no idea what a heart transplant could mean for this PERSON.

    Using the identity of "child molester" is really begging the question, and trying to bait people away from the human being behind the issue.

    In other words, it's an emotional argument that is not based in anything that is actually happening right now.
    What's funny is I used "child molester" in an attempt to use the least possible incindiery term. I coulda called him a kiddy diddler, child rapist or sexual predator (<----this one is an actual valid description).

    EDIT: Let me approach this from a different angle. Most people have done stuff in their lives that they are not proud of. But then, most of us do not have to wear that as an identity by force. If you ever needed a heart transplant, we wouldn't dig up your negative history and decide if you truly deserve one or not. You'd get one if it were available.
    I don't disagree with you for the most part, but I think child molesters are the lowest of the low. I think I could probably overlook any other crime, even murder, when looking at who gets a heart, but sex offenders are in a class all by themselves.
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    Re: Should a Convicted Child Molester Get a Heart Transplant at Tax Payer Expense?

    let him rot in prison, the molestation of our children should not be tolerated.

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