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Herman Cain for president?

Would you vote for Herman Cain for president?


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All these republican candidates...all these different view and perspectives on all these gop candidates. In the end there will be only one and I doubt theres much chance it will be Cain or Paul.
In the end all these opinions and views on who should be the nominee will have to decide on the one who wins and Obama, whether its your favorite or not...or whether you consider them a rino or not but I love all the speculation its what makes politics fun :)

Fun? watching a slow motion train wreck is fun?:2razz:
 
Consevatives stayed home in 2008. I had to drag myself there and then hold my nose. They'll be at the polls for Cain. Republicans/Conservatives/Independents/Libertarians...They'll all turn out.
Obama will have the Dems/Socialists/Communists/Marxists/Liberals/Progressives :)

Dems, yes. progressives, maybe. Liberals, depends on how liberal the republican candidate is. I think the bushification of Obama will have thoroughly disgusted the Communists/Marxists, maybe even the liberals and progressives.

But then, Obama never was a Communist or a Marxist, nor has he ever been much of a liberal. Is he really further to the left than his predecessor?
 
Hm.. maybe not. We do need someone who can shake things up in Washington.

Where does this guy stand on the issues? Health care, SS, the war on terror, the war on drugs, and the real biggie, the economy and deficit spending?

Here's what Cain wrote about Obamacare. I know he he wants no part of the government coming between patient and doctor, job losses, hurting small and large business.


2010: Don't forget, and do tell! ~ By Herman Cain

Don't forget what President Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress did in 2010 – and tell everybody who will listen! And if they do not get outraged, then they are sleeping under a rock, and they can't get out.

Pure politicians have for years depended on voters to forget their misdeeds leading up to the next election. But things are different! Voters are not as stupid and uninformed as they used to be. People are more informed and aware of the arrogance of the current administration and Congress than ever before.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said they needed to pass the health-care deform bill first, so they can then tell us what's in the bill. They passed it, and we now know what's in the bill: an assault on our liberties, increased taxes through fines and an unprecedented expansion of government bureaucracy in our lives. Don't forget!

The president's insistence on passing the health-care deform bill against the will of the majority of the American people was a historic presidential slap in the face of the people. Poll after poll had confirmed that the people did not like this government takeover of our health-care system, but the president and the Democrat-controlled Congress did it anyway. Don't forget!
Blogging in Our Time 2 Escape: 2010: Don't forget, and do tell! ~ By Herman Cain
 
Dems, yes. progressives, maybe. Liberals, depends on how liberal the republican candidate is. I think the bushification of Obama will have thoroughly disgusted the Communists/Marxists, maybe even the liberals and progressives.

But then, Obama never was a Communist or a Marxist, nor has he ever been much of a liberal. Is he really further to the left than his predecessor?

Yes, on social and economic issues, the only ones that directly affect Americans. The "bushification" of his foreign policy (minus Libya) was an inevitability.

Here's what Cain wrote about Obamacare. I know he he wants no part of the government coming between patient and doctor, job losses, hurting small and large business.


2010: Don't forget, and do tell! ~ By Herman Cain


Blogging in Our Time 2 Escape: 2010: Don't forget, and do tell! ~ By Herman Cain

Too bad Mr Cain is wrong. The country is split nearly 50/50 on the health care issue. With the addition of a public option its something like 55/45 in favor. Without the mandate, its like 70/30 in favor. Look up Gallup.
 
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Yes, on social and economic issues, the only ones that directly affect Americans. The "bushification" of his foreign policy (minus Libya) was an inevitability.

Social issues, yes. Bush was about as pro life as Obama is pro choice, not that it matters. The POTUS can't do much about abortion anyway.

Economic issues.. hmm.. There's Medicare part D, and there's TARP. I'm not so sure that there is much difference there.
 
Social issues, yes. Bush was about as pro life as Obama is pro choice, not that it matters. The POTUS can't do much about abortion anyway.

Economic issues.. hmm.. There's Medicare part D, and there's TARP. I'm not so sure that there is much difference there.

Obama is pro regulation and government involvement in the economy. Bush was for crony capitalism.
 
Yes, on social and economic issues, the only ones that directly affect Americans. The "bushification" of his foreign policy (minus Libya) was an inevitability.



Too bad Mr Cain is wrong. The country is split nearly 50/50 on the health care issue. With the addition of a public option its something like 55/45 in favor. Without the mandate, its like 70/30 in favor. Look up Gallup.

Look at when he wrote it.(2010) He was not wrong
 
Look at when he wrote it.(2010) He was not wrong

Yes he was. Thats the problem. The entire problem with the argument, and Gallup proved it, is that people believed talking heads and lies like "death panels." Once they were told what actually was happening more became in favor of the purposed changes than against.
 
Cain would get the white guilt vote from people who hate Obama because he is black. West espouses is a common theme that appeals to a certain demographic, "tell it like it is". Terms like that and claiming not to be politically correct are all the same thing. Nothing changes from Palin to Trump to West. Semantics without substance. The catch phrases don't translate into anything substantive.
 
Obama is pro regulation and government involvement in the economy. Bush was for crony capitalism.

Over regulation and government involvement in the economy is the height of crony capitalism.
 
Over regulation and government involvement in the economy is the height of crony capitalism.

No, Crony capitalism is you get your friends to win.
 
Over regulation and government involvement in the economy is the height of crony capitalism.

Yeah, if there is one thing Wall Street doesn't need it's regulation. I'm all for one cable TV provider, one broadband provider, one media mega corp, one or two mega healthcare providers, one utility provider, one or two energy providers and all Americans working for four or five mega corps or the subsidiaries, no matter what the career field. That would be just great, wouldn't it?

How's that day-glo Gulf shrimp you're eating? Tell me how BP didn't manipulate government before and after the oil spill? I imagine the guys who died on the rig and their families are certainly happy that profit was more important than adherence to government recommended/mandated safety standards.

I've seen enough unbridled capitalism to know that what's needed is rational regulation not corporate authored regulation.

Tell me why Wall Street and banking should have fewer regulations rather than more.
 
No, Crony capitalism is you get your friends to win.

exactly. that's the precise effect of overregulation. it's called "industry capture"; and it references the fact that regulating arms of the government typically become spokesmen for the largest players in the area that they are supposed to be regulating. the agricultural department argues in favor of increased agricultural subsidies. the national relations board becomes a pro-union entity. treasury and fed officials that come from the big banks - surprise surprise - tend to dispense government bailouts and largesse in ways that benefit those big banks.

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I've seen enough unbridled capitalism to know that what's needed is rational regulation not corporate authored regulation.

you are correct. the only problem is that history has demonstrated this to be an extreme political implausibility, if not an impossibility. industry has been involved in writing the regulations that will govern it since at least the Theodore Roosevelt Administration.

Tell me why Wall Street and banking should have fewer regulations rather than more.

because they are able to use their size, power, and influence to ensure that they limit competition and fix their market share, thereby turning us precisely into what you fear when you worry about America becoming dominated by one or two 'mega corps'. An excellent example of this would be our health insurance industry - where the fact that we have state border restrictions has allowed state governments to be influenced by the major providers in their states to heavily regulate the industry - with the result being that many states are dominated by a vanishingly small number of health insurers, who write the regulation in order to prevent competition, give it to politicians with a check, and then clink champagne glasses when those politicians obediently pass it.



if you want to get business out of politics, then get politics out of business. when you begin to legislate buying and selling, the first things to be bought and sold are the legislators. as long as you provide a massive financial incentive for private interests to interfere with politics, then that is precisely what they will do.
 
Cathy Zoi's (who was a lower member of the president's cabinet) husband is an executive at Serious Materials, who got stimulus money.

Zoi now works as part of Soro's Green energy fund.

Were's the "Gotaya"
 
if you want to get business out of politics, then get politics out of business. when you begin to legislate buying and selling, the first things to be bought and sold are the legislators. as long as you provide a massive financial incentive for private interests to interfere with politics, then that is precisely what they will do.

Right, and that is exactly what is happening. Invest in a good legislator or two, and you ensure that laws and regulation favor your business to the detriment of competition. Meanwhile, it takes millions to run for office, hundreds of millions for the presidency, and what do those millions buy mostly? Campaign commercials, that's what, commercials to tell half truths and outright lies, to denigrate the competition, to sway the voters emotionally without adding a scintilla of information to the campaign.

What we have is reverse socialism, i.e., industry control of government.

What we don't need is to end regulation. It was a lack of regulation of the mortgage banking industry that brought on the current recession. What we do need is rational regulation passed by the representatives of the people, not the industries being regulated.

If the foxes have their way, coyotes won't be allowed into the henhouse, but they will.
 
ah yes. so the first step is that all of our politicians stop being politicians......... wait a minute.


:doh



i see a flaw in the plan.
 
ah yes. so the first step is that all of our politicians stop being politicians......... wait a minute.


:doh



i see a flaw in the plan.

um.. yes, that could be difficult to accomplish. Further, the money that is corrupting the system is the "mother's milk" of politics.

So, a government that isn't being sold to the highest bidder, is that an impossible dream?
 
um.. yes, that could be difficult to accomplish. Further, the money that is corrupting the system is the "mother's milk" of politics.

So, a government that isn't being sold to the highest bidder, is that an impossible dream?

well, i'm from the South. So I sort of have a built-in-predisposition to



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but the answer is: i have no idea. It's only been done once before that I am aware of. :(
 
You know for all the bitching I hear Conservatives do about the Liberal elite and our hollywood friends, they sure do like to jerk off right-wing celebrities a lot. Think about. Sarah Palin, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Denis Miller. The list goes on and on. It's the like the right wing doesn't have an intellectual leader to save it's life.

I don't think you understand what the right means by liberal elite.
 
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