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Herman Cain for president?

Would you vote for Herman Cain for president?

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celticwar17 said:
You and me too Barb, Ill will vote for him in the primary... i dont know how likely it is for him to win though :(
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It is way, waaay too early to know who will make it through the campaign gauntlet. Clinton was an unknown candidate around this same time in 1991 and he still won.
 
Barbbtx said:
He'll win if he gets out there and people get to know him. So far it's only the tea party crowd and they love him. Lots of people are still saying Herman Cain? Who's that?
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If the Tea Party loves him then his prospects may not be good. The general election is won in the middle, and 2012 will be the same. If Cain is too far right then independent conservative voters may not turn up. But then again, who the heck can predict such things.
 
BDBoop said:
It is? SO we're not supposed to be balanced and informed. Am I understanding your take on things correctly?
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Be as informed as you like, dear. Knowledge and wisedom are good things! Just try to remain open minded alittle bit to balance out your points of view. I think that's the problem with our national politic...too many people see only one side of the ledger and don't try seeing things from the other side's perspective. That goes for those on the Left and the Right.
 
Objective Voice said:
Be as informed as you like, dear. Knowledge and wisedom are good things! Just try to remain open minded alittle bit to balance out your points of view. I think that's the problem with our national politic...too many people see only one side of the ledger and don't try seeing things from the other side's perspective. That goes for those on the Left and the Right.
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That's what I'm shooting for.
 
StillBallin75 said:
And just what are these "Islamic views" that are not appealing to "traditional Americans"? Have you met most Muslims? Different Muslims practice their faith differently, their beliefs and their practices are about as varied as Christians. Some are very devout, many not so much. Some take the Koran very literally, most American Muslims take the Koran about as literally as most Christians take the Bible.

The difference between excluding Muslims, and excluding liberals, is that apparently Cain's rationale is that "because of their faith, Muslims might not uphold the Constitution." That's a pretty blanket statement and is not backed up by any evidence. If there's any evidence that the average American Muslim has more disdain for the US Constitution than the average American, I would like to see it.
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People made a similar argument about Kennedy. Since he was Catholic the attack from the right was that he was going to take orders from the Pope and not stay true to the constitution.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Being blunt and honest does not get you elected. The ability to speak without actually answering a question gets you elected. The ability to talk to a diverse group, and have all of them come away thinking you're on their side gets you elected.
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Sad but true.
 
Barbbtx said:
If I was a liberal, listening to a Herman Cain speech, I'd want to wrap my head in duct tape. I can't believe they would agree with him on anything.
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Well then I'm happy for you that you are not a liberal. Getting ducktape off your head would hurt!
 
I would vote for him no problem.
 
Objective Voice said:
But here again, Cain isn't receiving the backing of the GOP. I was watching the Today Show this morning and Matt Lauer was interviewing Carl Rove. He gave credit or made mention of just about every Republican candidate, as well as, the two who have yet to put their names in the hat - Mitch Daniels and Christie, but didn't mention Herman Cain at all. He did mention that Donald Trump wouldn't get the GOP presidential knod because he basically killed his chances with the birther issue, and he talked up Pawlenty, but he said not one word about Cain...the man who by most accounts won the first GOP presidential debate. Nothing...zeltch...nahdah!!!

And the citizens of the Right are suppose to pick the next GOP candidate...???...yeah, right. Good Luck with that!

This is getting funnier every day!! :lol:
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I Know it sucks. I knew he wouldn't get anything from Rove,or the RNC, but I hate that he is being ignored. I'm hoping the Koch bro., Americans for Prosperity etc choose him as their favorite. He doesn't have money of his own. He is having some kind of big fundraiser dinner soon. I forget who's doing that for him.
 
ADG said:
It is way, waaay too early to know who will make it through the campaign gauntlet. Clinton was an unknown candidate around this same time in 1991 and he still won.
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Speaking of Clinton. :) 1994
 
ADG said:
If the Tea Party loves him then his prospects may not be good. The general election is won in the middle, and 2012 will be the same. If Cain is too far right then independent conservative voters may not turn up. But then again, who the heck can predict such things.
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Cain can win the general. It's the primary I'm worried about. For one thing, there's the Ron Paul supporters who won't vote for him in the primary, but they will in the general. Another, the media is going to choose someone to promote and it won't be Cain. I'm afraid what might happen is they're going to pick someone who can't beat Obama.
 
Barbbtx said:
Cain can win the general. It's the primary I'm worried about. For one thing, there's the Ron Paul supporters who won't vote for him in the primary, but they will in the general. Another, the media is going to choose someone to promote and it won't be Cain. I'm afraid what might happen is they're going to pick someone who can't beat Obama.
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Like Cain. If Cain continues his far right rhetoric, he may win the primary but he would be dead in the general. If he moves to the middle, which for conservatives means right of center, he should do well in the general, but I don't see him doing that.
 
ADG said:
Like Cain. If Cain continues his far right rhetoric, he may win the primary but he would be dead in the general. If he moves to the middle, which for conservatives means right of center, he should do well in the general, but I don't see him doing that.
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The best candidates appeal to the base in the primaries, then move toward the center in the general election after they get nominated. I'm not sure if Cain can do the latter.
 
StillBallin75 said:
The best candidates appeal to the base in the primaries, then move toward the center in the general election after they get nominated. I'm not sure if Cain can do the latter.
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I don't think so either. If my gut feeling about him is right, he will not change his stance on the issues as the campaign continues. If that is true, he will have my utmost respect, but in the general election this type of integrity would lose him the swayable independents. Sad but true. I actually have been looking into this guy after reading through the thread and I believe he is very smart and that his passion is real. I would love to see a debate between him and Obama. But we'll probably see a debate with Romney and Obama, which will be predictable.
 
ADG said:
I don't think so either. If my gut feeling about him is right, he will not change his stance on the issues as the campaign continues. If that is true, he will have my utmost respect, but in the general election this type of integrity would lose him the swayable independents. Sad but true. I actually have been looking into this guy after reading through the thread and I believe he is very smart and that his passion is real. I would love to see a debate between him and Obama. But we'll probably see a debate with Romney and Obama, which will be predictable.
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I think that rhetoric can be moderated, but often people start digging up dirt on what the candidate said in the past and then accuse him/her of flip-flopping. It's a fine line the candidate must walk.
 
ADG said:
Like Cain. If Cain continues his far right rhetoric, he may win the primary but he would be dead in the general. If he moves to the middle, which for conservatives means right of center, he should do well in the general, but I don't see him doing that.
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I think he would beat obama with his conservative views... people want a Reagan/conservative solution to the economy and national debt( the last house elections prove that), and he gives clear honest common sense answers unlike any other politician. Peoples reaction to Cains character and strategies was drastic, like in the video he convince a WHOLE room full of republicans to vote for him after the debate. He has the potential, but the right and left media are pickin their favorites, which will hurt Cain for the primaries.
 
ADG said:
Sometimes I really miss Bill. That was a good clip of Cain as well, though Clinton certainly got the better of the exchange.
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:roll: not at all, but thats just probably a product of our political bias' :D
 
celticwar17 said:
I think he would beat obama with his conservative views... people want a Reagan/conservative solution to the economy and national debt( the last house elections prove that), and he gives clear honest common sense answers unlike any other politician. Peoples reaction to Cains character and strategies was drastic, like in the video he convince a WHOLE room full of republicans to vote for him after the debate. He has the potential, but the right and left media are pickin their favorites, which will hurt Cain for the primaries.
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Wait, is this the discussion with Clinton? Was he actually running for office?
 
ADG said:
Sometimes I really miss Bill. That was a good clip of Cain as well, though Clinton certainly got the better of the exchange.
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I kind of saw it as a draw. To be frank I couldn't tell what was actually going on, it was a bit confusing. I think Cain's message was "if you put this legislation in place it would be a tremendous burden on our business and the pizza industry." And Bill was like "well actually if you do the math you won't really be shouldering all that much of a burden."

It was hard to tell who was actually right, so i dunno.
 
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