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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    You blew off my entire post other than one statement, thank you!

    Anyway, that is irrelevant. Modern muslims do not believe in sharia law. You are absolutely crazy if you think run of the mill muslims want to have sharia law in the United States. Sharia law itself is starting to crumble around the world anyway.

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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    How the hell is sharia law going to creep into government? Islam is not also a political belief. You could make that same argument for Christianity or any other of the religions that you are ok with. In reference to your question, yes. Ron Paul took a Hippocratic oath when he became a doctor. Are you worried that that oath will supercede the constitution if he becomes President, or are you just worried about muslims? Where did you learn your history of world religions? Just asking!

    The majority of muslims want a secularized government. That's why we're seeing all of these peaceful secular protests in the middle east.

    Google Political christianity and then Google political Islam. Islam is not just a religion.

    Political Islam
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    Robin Wright "Islam and Liberal Democracy: Two Visions Of Reformation"

    Sharīʿah (Arabic: شريعة‎ šarīʿah, IPA: [ʃaˈriːʕa], "way" or "path") is the code of conduct or religious law of Islam. Most Muslims believe Sharia is derived from two primary sources of Islamic law: the precepts set forth in the Qur'an, and the example set by the Islamic Prophet Muhammad in the Sunnah. Fiqh jurisprudence interprets and extends the application of Sharia to questions not directly addressed in the primary sources by including secondary sources. These secondary sources usually include the consensus of the religious scholars embodied in ijma, and analogy from the Qur'an and Sunnah through qiyas. Shia jurists prefer to apply reasoning ('aql) rather than analogy in order to address difficult questions.
    Muslims believe Sharia is God's law, but they differ as to what exactly it entails.[1] Modernists, traditionalists and fundamentalists all hold different views of Sharia, as do adherents to different schools of Islamic thought and scholarship. Different countries and cultures have varying interpretations of Sharia as well.
    Sharia deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexuality, hygiene, diet, prayer, and fasting. Where it enjoys official status, Sharia is applied by Islamic judges, or qadis. The imam has varying responsibilities depending on the interpretation of Sharia; while the term is commonly used to refer to the leader of communal prayers, the imam may also be a scholar, religious leader, or political leader.
    Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Why Sharia Law Must Be Opposed
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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    You blew off my entire post other than one statement, thank you!

    Anyway, that is irrelevant. Modern muslims do not believe in sharia law. You are absolutely crazy if you think run of the mill muslims want to have sharia law in the United States. Sharia law itself is starting to crumble around the world anyway.
    Yea, I can see that

    From Magna Carta to Sharia Law



    American Thinker: Sharia Law in Canada and Britain


    Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts -Times Online

    Sharia law is spreading as authority wanes - Telegraph

    Britain has 85 sharia courts: The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors | Mail Online
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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    I truly hope he doesn't win the Republican primary, which he has a good chance of doing since the paleo-conservatives have taken over the party. If he wins, then I'll have to choose between a Democratic president who I tend to disagree with ideologically, and a Republican candidate who represents everything moronic about the right wing.

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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the point is there for comparison - all politicians utilize teleprompters. however, Obama does not get blasted as "stupid" for using one by the general media - Palin instead get's blasted as stupid because she didn't need one instead. Pick any politician about whom the media has fawned over as "intelligent" (as they did over the President) and the model still fits.

    and I do write stuff on my hands. When I was in school that's how I kept track of my homework. Now, it's how I keep track of projects when I move from one location to the other - or leave note for myself to remind myself of tasks I want to get done during the day.

    for example, two or so days ago i read a Prickly City comic and enjoyed the bit quite alot because it reminded me of some posters here. So i wrote "prickly city" on my left palm as a reminder that when I got back to my computer after work, I could look up the cartoon on line and post it to the Political Cartoons thread.

    here it is: The Ryan Budget Discussed.

    what, you think I am lying to you to protect someone that I hope doesn't run for any office ever again? how would that work?
    I seriously thought that was a woman thing.
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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

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    I'm not asking for any of that. The point is, muslims in the United States do not want Sharia law imposed in the government. To say that you refuse to appoint someone to a government job because of that is a violation of the constitution's separation of church and state provisions, and with that said, bigotry. And yes, it is losing traction. That's why oppressive regimes in the middle east are falling.

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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    You blew off my entire post other than one statement, thank you!

    Anyway, that is irrelevant. Modern muslims do not believe in sharia law. You are absolutely crazy if you think run of the mill muslims want to have sharia law in the United States. Sharia law itself is starting to crumble around the world anyway.
    not paying much attention to europe, are you?

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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    I'm not asking for any of that. The point is, muslims in the United States do not want Sharia law imposed in the government. To say that you refuse to appoint someone to a government job because of that is a violation of the constitution's separation of church and state provisions, and with that said, bigotry. And yes, it is losing traction. That's why oppressive regimes in the middle east are falling.


    you do realize that it is the islamists who are leading those movements?




    : secular regimes like Mubaraks are falling because the people are angry at his imposition of Sharia Law, which is why they are replacing him with the Muslim Brotherhood
    Last edited by cpwill; 05-22-11 at 01:13 AM.

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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    He has no shot. None.
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    Re: Herman Cain for president?

    [QUOTE=Gargantuan;1059504846]
    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post

    I'm not asking for any of that. The point is, muslims in the United States do not want Sharia law imposed in the government. To say that you refuse to appoint someone to a government job because of that is a violation of the constitution's separation of church and state provisions, and with that said, bigotry. And yes, it is losing traction. That's why oppressive regimes in the middle east are falling.
    Are you saying president Obama doesn't have the right to choose who he wants to surround himself with? Maybe that's why we ended up with commies and socialists in the white house. Obama was forced to appoint them.
    As far as separation of church and state. Islam, does not separate their religion from their politics. Don't you see how that could be a problem?
    From everything i've been hearing, sharia law is gaining traction in countries like Britain where they kept letting it creep in more and more. now it's becoming a problem.
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