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Herman Cain for president?

Would you vote for Herman Cain for president?


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wow, ill have to start listening to his audio and watching his videos MORE because nothing about the man at all, so far says "uniter"?? his extreme partisan oozes the exact opposite

how can you say he doesnt agree with one of the main parties at all but will be an uniter and Obama who many like to falsely claim is a socialists is accused of more isle crossing and caving to the other side more than any recent president?

AGain Obama is NOT all sunshine and rainbows but when I think of him I dont think of "anti-uniter" or a person that only wants the support of his bases LMAO are you serious or just messing with me right now?

Doesnt a shock jock from atlanta fill in for beck quite a bit? or is it for rush?

Being a "uniting" president as nothing to do with you giving into people of the other side. The most 'extreme'/polar presidents in our history were very "uniting" like FDR, Reagan, Lincoln, ... you have no case
 
He won't be able to. Obama couldn't, because only those who wanted to be united, were. Those who didn't, weren't. Cain will run into the EXACT same issue.
Boop, you've heard the way Obama insults republicans, and conservatives. That very unpresidential and divisive. Mr. Cain has much more class than to do that to liberals once he is in office. He's used to overseeing/leading all kinds of people to get the job done at hand.
 
Boop, you've heard the way Obama insults republicans, and conservatives. That very unpresidential and divisive. Mr. Cain has much more class than to do that to liberals once he is in office. He's used to overseeing/leading all kinds of people to get the job done at hand.

he does have a lot more class..he can completely own someone in the most civil way... like that Clinton video he was in
 
Being a "uniting" president as nothing to do with you giving into people of the other side. The most 'extreme'/polar presidents in our history were very "uniting" like FDR, Reagan, Lincoln, ... you have no case

WRONG! LMAO
it could NOT have an impact and it also COULD have an impact and in my opinion anybody that "hates everything liberal" will never be a "uniter" LOL Just like a canidate who would hate everything conservitive, would never be an uniter. Cain will never be an untier. Obama is a president during a very difided time but in my opinion everybody I know that is OBJECTIVE and nonpartasin feels he is a uniter and they actually think its a flaw because he over does it. Now mind you I said objective and nonpartasin.
 
WRONG! LMAO
it could NOT have an impact and it also COULD have an impact and in my opinion anybody that "hates everything liberal" will never be a "uniter" LOL Just like a canidate who would hate everything conservitive, would never be an uniter. Cain will never be an untier. Obama is a president during a very difided time but in my opinion everybody I know that is OBJECTIVE and nonpartasin feels he is a uniter and they actually think its a flaw because he over does it. Now mind you I said objective and nonpartasin.
meh... i disagree completely, but whatever floats your boat.
 
meh... i disagree completely, but whatever floats your boat.

disagree with what? You think a person who is described as "hates everything liberal" and use sound bytes to bash liberals in general all inclusive ways will be a uniter? LMAO
an uniter of what? anger? hate? disdain?

also to be clear this would also go for the opposite too, if somebody was promoting a person who was described as "hates everything conservative" they would meet the same fate
 
WRONG! LMAO
it could NOT have an impact and it also COULD have an impact and in my opinion anybody that "hates everything liberal" will never be a "uniter" LOL Just like a canidate who would hate everything conservitive, would never be an uniter. Cain will never be an untier. Obama is a president during a very difided time but in my opinion everybody I know that is OBJECTIVE and nonpartasin feels he is a uniter and they actually think its a flaw because he over does it. Now mind you I said objective and nonpartasin.

For example, Reagan, was famously derided as a far-right-wing nutjob. which is why he was overwhelmingly defeated when he ran for reelection.
 
Boop, you've heard the way Obama insults republicans, and conservatives. That very unpresidential and divisive. Mr. Cain has much more class than to do that to liberals once he is in office. He's used to overseeing/leading all kinds of people to get the job done at hand.

Actually, I haven't.
 
really? you didn't hear him accuse us of throwing grandmothers and autistic kids under the bus? telling hispanics that we were their "enemies" and they needed to "punish" us? President Obama's Strawman practically deserves his own press office, he is in Obama's speeches so much.
 
For example, Reagan, was famously derided as a far-right-wing nutjob. which is why he was overwhelmingly defeated when he ran for reelection.

the STORIES of Reagan and the REALITY of him are different things, I liked regan in many ways and I never thought he was and extremist or far right. Many people believe if you took his exact package and had him around today he wouldnt even be consider that much "right" more moderate than anything
 
WHAT!!!!!!
wow, ill have to start listening to his audio and watching his videos MORE because nothing about the man at all, so far says "uniter"?? his extreme partisan oozes the exact opposite

how can you say he doesnt agree with one of the main parties at all but will be an uniter and Obama who many like to falsely claim is a socialists is accused of more isle crossing and caving to the other side more than any recent president?

AGain Obama is NOT all sunshine and rainbows but when I think of him I dont think of "anti-uniter" or a person that only wants the support of his bases LMAO are you serious or just messing with me right now?

Doesnt a shock jock from atlanta fill in for beck quite a bit? or is it for rush?

I listen to Rush and Beck. I have never heard Herman Cain fill in for either one of them. It's possible i just missed those times, but I doubt it, as I am a fan of all three. Honestly I've never heard Cain on the radio except when he was being interviewed (maybe once?)
If he is a shock jock, that is news to me, unless you consider all conservative talk show hosts shock jocks?
What I think is shocking is a president who tells republicans they can come along dfor the ride but have to sit in the back. Obama is not a president of the people.
Just because you don't agree with someone on anything doesn't mean you can't treat them with respect.
 
really? you didn't hear him accuse us of throwing grandmothers and autistic kids under the bus? telling hispanics that we were their "enemies" and they needed to "punish" us? President Obama's Strawman practically deserves his own press office, he is in Obama's speeches so much.

I don't do "operating in a vacuum." If those were things he had said, I'd want to know in what context. And I'm pretty sure there's a damn good one.
 
I dont know how anyone can take rush seriously. However, I do like his coined term PSMN
 
the STORIES of Reagan and the REALITY of him are different things, I liked regan in many ways and I never thought he was and extremist or far right

i agree. he would be a centrist in today's republican party, were he to espouse the same policies.

however, that was not at all the way in which he was viewed or portrayed, especially in the media, at the time.
 
I just checked it is the guy i thought of but I had the wrong show he stood in for Rush quite few times, thats even more points against him, seems for me he is going into the negatives FAST

Show me. Almost every person who fills in for Rush has the first name of Mark. there's 3 or 4 of them. I would have made sure not to miss if Cain was filling in.
 
I listen to Rush and Beck. I have never heard Herman Cain fill in for either one of them. It's possible i just missed those times, but I doubt it, as I am a fan of all three. Honestly I've never heard Cain on the radio except when he was being interviewed (maybe once?)
If he is a shock jock, that is news to me, unless you consider all conservative talk show hosts shock jocks?
What I think is shocking is a president who tells republicans they can come along dfor the ride but have to sit in the back. Obama is not a president of the people.
Just because you don't agree with someone on anything doesn't mean you can't treat them with respect.

Yes all those type of talk radio people that I listen to almost daily are shock jocks. And cain as definitely stood in for rush which hurts him.

So tell me a president that has been more Isle way than obama recently and then tell me why you think that any candidate the a person would describe as "hates everything liberal/conservative" would be a "uniter", whats the logic behind that

seem to me you dont think in terms of AMERICA but yet CONSERVATIVE amercia as thats all thet would be united under cain.

ALso about Obama treating with reps with respect, I havent seen much disrespect and when I did it has been basically BEGGED for.

Now mind you TWO wrongs do NOT make a right, im just saying how can YOU judge him and say he isnt a president of the people or uses disrespect when he is met with the same all the time and many people not on his party say "he isnt my president" If those people claim that you cant be their president no matter how much he tries and he does.

AGAIN you are making me defend Obama but its only because you dont seem to be objective about the subject at all. Like I said he is not all sunshine and rainbows but the thins you are saying I simply dont see and seem to fit right in with cain. Partisan.
 
i agree. he would be a centrist in today's republican party, were he to espouse the same policies.

however, that was not at all the way in which he was viewed or portrayed, especially in the media, at the time.


and I care about how non objective people portrayed him why?
Like I said REALITY of reagan is what is important and the independents and objective people didnt view him as an extremist right wing nut job
 
I don't do "operating in a vacuum." If those were things he had said, I'd want to know in what context. And I'm pretty sure there's a damn good one.


well, the context for claiming that Republicans were throwing grannie and autistic children under a bus was a speech to a college-crowd to which the Republican leadership was invited and which was billed as the President's "response" to the House 2012 Budget - the Administration put out the assumption that the President would basically get behind much of the Simpson-Bowles Report and demand that Republicans put tax hikes on the table in compromise for entitlement reform. Instead he sort of pulled a bait-and-switch and used the event to launch what I guess will be the theme of his 2012 campaign. Also worth noting that he implied that we were destroying "what made America great". i haven't heard the autistic kids bit again, though we have heard more than enough granny-in-the-snow sort of material from the administration and their allies.

paul ryan was none too pleased; he was, in fact, the most visibly upset and shaken that i've seen him - and I've watched him quite a bit in a variety of tough interviews.




telling hispanics that they needed to "punish" republicans for being their "enemies" was part of a piece given to attempt to rally support for Democrats prior to the 2010 election. he was sort of jumped all over it in the media and hasn't reused the line since.

 
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well, technically it's called the IPAB - Independent Payment Advisory Board. They're sort of the new American version of the British Orwellian-sounding N.I.C.E., which is in charge of deciding when Britons are no longer worth the cost of their medical care. IPAB's task is to figure out when your healthcare is no longer cost-effective for the government, and deny you - you or your doctor's opinion bedammed.

oh, they can be overturned.... but only by a supermajority of congress. For some odd reason, the ACA chose to make them immune from lawsuit, so their decisions (which are life and death) can't be argued in a court...... :confused: now gosh, why would they go and do something like that?


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House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Sander Levin (D-Mich.) is refusing to hold public hearings to examine administration plans to implement a new health care rationing system at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS).
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and I care about how non objective people portrayed him why?
Like I said REALITY of reagan is what is important and the independents and objective people didnt view him as an extremist right wing nut job


reality is certainly more important. but i think I am discussing a shift in said attitudes, and you are referencing a static point. the carter white house was initially jubilant with his nomination, for precisely this reason.
 
Show me. Almost every person who fills in for Rush has the first name of Mark. there's 3 or 4 of them. I would have made sure not to miss if Cain was filling in.

just google "herman cain stands in for rush" or something along those lines im sure youll find links just like I did
 
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reality is certainly more important. but i think I am discussing a shift in said attitudes, and you are referencing a static point. the carter white house was initially jubilant with his nomination, for precisely this reason.

what im discussing is that to be a uniter you have to cross the isle and or atlest sneak general america views in policy and your leadership

the rest dont matter to me and Cain would never be an uniter IMO, no logic to support that
 
Yes all those type of talk radio people that I listen to almost daily are shock jocks. And cain as definitely stood in for rush which hurts him.

So tell me a president that has been more Isle way than obama recently and then tell me why you think that any candidate the a person would describe as "hates everything liberal/conservative" would be a "uniter", whats the logic behind that

seem to me you dont think in terms of AMERICA but yet CONSERVATIVE amercia as thats all thet would be united under cain.

ALso about Obama treating with reps with respect, I havent seen much disrespect and when I did it has been basically BEGGED for.

Now mind you TWO wrongs do NOT make a right, im just saying how can YOU judge him and say he isnt a president of the people or uses disrespect when he is met with the same all the time and many people not on his party say "he isnt my president" If those people claim that you cant be their president no matter how much he tries and he does.

AGAIN you are making me defend Obama but its only because you dont seem to be objective about the subject at all. Like I said he is not all sunshine and rainbows but the thins you are saying I simply dont see and seem to fit right in with cain. Partisan.

I bet you can't find one close association to Obama in his past who was not a liberal. In Cains line of work he has had to work and get along with all kinds of people. He could not pick and choose like Obama.
I don't have a problem electing a president who doesn't agree with liberals. Why would I? I would object to one who treated them like crap. Cain is not that type person.
 
he does have a lot more class..he can completely own someone in the most civil way... like that Clinton video he was in

Exactly. I love that video. Both Cain and Clinton showed a lot of class and civility. Not sure Obama would have done the same.
 
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