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Is the Tea Party racist?

Is the Tea Party Movement Racist

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Are some people who support the Tea Party racist? I'm sure there are, just as there are probably racists in a lot of other groups. However, the Tea Party in and of itself in no way advocates racism, nor is racism a part of their credo. As advertised, the Tea Party is about government accountability. They may be partisan and very agenda driven, but they aren't racist.
 
Patrickt said:
And so the light finally dawned for you. Congratulations.

Of course, some of the actions of the left do seem quite racist. Their insistance on continuing to force poor blacks into non-performing schools so they will be denied an education. During slavery, blacks were not allowed to learn to read. For liberals, nothing has changed.

And then there is the constant whining from the left that there is no class mobility in the U.S. You can't improve you lot either socially or economically if you're black so for god's sake don't try. And if you do try, and succeed, the left will hate you.

In fact, the left hates most blacks who are successful outside of certain left-approved fields. In business you better not succeed if you're black or you'll be hated.

And then there's the very public, very vitriolic hatred of blacks by the left. If you're black and not a socialist, you'll be crushed. Lies are fine. Perjury is fine. Anything goes.
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Where are you even getting this from? We hate blacks so much that 90% of them are part of our party? That we elected one as our president? Where do you even get such a bogus idea?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I'm not saying the party as a group is racist but there are racist people in the party.
But saying that i found this hilarious: Teabagger uses racism to explain that the Tea Party is not racist. // Current
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Every group has racist people. Thanks for the insight.

But is the movement racist? Absolutely not. But there are crazies out there. Take a look at a post from a professor at UCLA about the Tea Party.

The Tea Party people are no better than the Klu Klux Klan and the Southerners who lynched black men and attacked the black children trying to enter all white schools.
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Larry Simpson's Thoughts and Musings

You tell me who the crazy one is.
 
the makeout hobo said:
Where are you even getting this from? We hate blacks so much that 90% of them are part of our party? That we elected one as our president? Where do you even get such a bogus idea?
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Liberals are racists. That's where I get the idea. Why do you want blacks in non-performing schools? Why do you not want to allow blacks to attend private schools, with, gasp, white kids by using vouchers? Why are you opposed to any changes in the school system that might irritate the liberal teachers' unions?

I never said they didn't lie and hide it well. War is peace, up is down, Democrats will help blacks. Oh, and wasn't it a Democrat who praised President Obama, before the election, for being a well-spoken black man who was clean. I think it was Joe Biden. President Obama didn't frighten white liberals, either.

Are blacks as a group better off now than they were forty years ago?
 
theplaydrive said:
It's still the Tea Party.
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So the Tea Party is just as bad as the KKK who actually lynched people? You have a twisted sense of reality that you would say the professor is not crazy.
 
phattonez said:
So the Tea Party is just as bad as the KKK who actually lynched people? You have a twisted sense of reality that you would say the professor is not crazy.
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No. I didn't say that at all. You said "tell me who the crazy one is". I said the Tea Party. The Tea Party is still the crazy one, the others are just exaggerating.
 
theplaydrive said:
No. I didn't say that at all. You said "tell me who the crazy one is". I said the Tea Party. The Tea Party is still the crazy one, the others are just exaggerating.
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The guy who says the Tea Party is as bad as the KKK is not as crazy? What has the Tea Party done that is even that crazy?
 
phattonez said:
The guy who says the Tea Party is as bad as the KKK is not as crazy? What has the Tea Party done that is even that crazy?
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No. Not crazy. He probably saw all the racist signs and didn't investigate any further. That's not crazy, it's ignorant.
 
theplaydrive said:
No. Not crazy. He probably saw all the racist signs and didn't investigate any further. That's not crazy, it's ignorant.
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Racist signs do not equal lynching. So again, what has the Tea Party done that is even that crazy?
 
phattonez said:
Racist signs do not equal lynching. So again, what has the Tea Party done that is even that crazy?
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Sure, but the modern KKK protests/marches with racist signs, so how do you know that one of those people is a member of the KKK?

What has the Tea Party done? They spoke. See Michelle Bachman and Christine O'Donnell.
 
theplaydrive said:
Sure, but the modern KKK protests/marches with racist signs, so how do you know that one of those people is a member of the KKK?
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Read the quote again. He says that the Tea Party is as bad as the KKK that lynched people. Not the modern KKK, but even the modern KKK is all about race. Is the Tea Party all about race?

What has the Tea Party done? They spoke. See Michelle Bachman and Christine O'Donnell.
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Speaking about debt is crazy?
 
phattonez said:
Read the quote again. He says that the Tea Party is as bad as the KKK that lynched people. Not the modern KKK, but even the modern KKK is all about race. Is the Tea Party all about race?
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No it's not - which is why I said he was ignorant.

Speaking about debt is crazy?
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No - everybody speaks about debt, not just Tea Partiers.
 
theplaydrive said:
No it's not - which is why I said he was ignorant.

No - everybody speaks about debt, not just Tea Partiers.
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Then what makes the Tea Party crazy but not that professor?
 
theplaydrive said:
For more information, see everything Christine O'Donnell and Michelle Bachmann have ever said.
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So Christine O'Donnell and Michelle Bachmann are the Tea Party? Then it's just as fair to say that the professor I quoted is the Democratic party.
 
phattonez said:
So Christine O'Donnell and Michelle Bachmann are the Tea Party? Then it's just as fair to say that the professor I quoted is the Democratic party.
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It's actually not fair at all because the professor is not a politician endorsed by the Democratic Party whereas the Tea Party has chosen O'Donnell and Bachmann as Representatives of its movement. When that professor becomes an official representative of the Democratic Party, we'll talk.
 
theplaydrive said:
It's actually not fair at all because the professor is not a politician endorsed by the Democratic Party whereas the Tea Party has chosen O'Donnell and Bachmann as Representatives of its movement. When that professor becomes an official representative of the Democratic Party, we'll talk.
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They have chosen? Or did O'Donnell and Bachmann decide? I don't remember the Tea Party holding a referendum to choose these people.
 
phattonez said:
They have chosen? Or did O'Donnell and Bachmann decide? I don't remember the Tea Party holding a referendum to choose these people.
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Chosen. They were both endorsed by national and local Tea Party organizations.
 
theplaydrive said:
Chosen. They were both endorsed by national and local Tea Party organizations.
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And those are chosen by the actual Tea Partiers? It's my understanding that these are people who just show up and that the organizations are just the people who organize the events.
 
theplaydrive said:
Chosen. They were both endorsed by national and local Tea Party organizations.
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So if a movement or a party or a group endorses someone who is crazy, even if they're just one of many....then that movement/group/party's entirety is crazy? Because that seems to be what you're saying by justifying calling all of the tea party crazy based on their support for two people.
 
Zyphlin said:
So if a movement or a party or a group endorses someone who is crazy, even if they're just one of many....then that movement/group/party's entirety is crazy? Because that seems to be what you're saying by justifying calling all of the tea party crazy based on their support for two people.
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1. They are two of the biggest Tea Party candidates. If the biggest Democrat or normal Republican candidates were as ridiculous as Bachmann and O'Donnell, then you would have a valid point. However, the biggest representatives of Dems and normal Reps are not crazy.

2. Rand Paul, Carl Paladino, Mike Lee, Sharron Angle, etc. In other words, it's not just a few.
 
phattonez said:
And those are chosen by the actual Tea Partiers? It's my understanding that these are people who just show up and that the organizations are just the people who organize the events.
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They are endorsed by the prominent national Tea Party organizations like FreedomWorks and Tea Party express in addition to their local Tea Party chapters. I think both of them have also been featured speakers at Tea Party rallies.
 
theplaydrive said:
They are endorsed by the prominent national Tea Party organizations like FreedomWorks and Tea Party express in addition to their local Tea Party chapters. I think both of them have also been featured speakers at Tea Party rallies.
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There has been no referendum; you're building an argument on sand.
 
phattonez said:
There has been no referendum; you're building an argument on sand.
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How so? When Tea Party organizations endorse candidates, they are representatives of the Tea Party. I'm sorry you don't like it. Please suggest a way of determining who Tea Partiers endorse as politicians - after all they are a group for political change, so they must have people in mind.
 
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