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Thread: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    False.

    Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).

    Sexual offenders are not even in the top six for highest recidivism.

    In fact, recidivism for sexual offenders is below 10% which would put it as one of the least likely groups to re offend.
    Hey! Won't you PLEASE just think of the children! Don't point out the fact that sex offenders have amongst the lowest recidivism rate. That's not thinking of the children. If you're thinking of the children you won't let facts get in the way of your condemnation. I mean....the children, man, the children!
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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well if they were trying to prevent you from having gay sex...prison would probably be the last place to put ya.
    Unless you're going that "making them smoke the whole pack" route to discourage smoking.

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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I have time for some more

    We should put our efforts towards separating child molesters from the general population. We just leave it at that.

    We cannot accept you into our society and we are not willing to kill you. So you must live on this island until the day you die. Make the best of it. May God forgive you for your sin.
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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well if they were trying to prevent you from having gay sex...prison would probably be the last place to put ya.
    Too costly. They'd put me on an island. They just want to keep me away from their adult children. They don't really want to punish me. That wouldn't be so bad, an island. I want to play the Professor. I'd come up with all different inventions and sell them to the normal people on the mainland.

    Oh wait I get it! Good one!
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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    A voice of reason!!! They can never be trusted, so instead of keeping them locked away at our expense, execute them, and practice zero tolerance in society.
    I largely agree, with an EXTREMELY high standard of evidence being necessary to being placed in that class.

    I have met two people in my life whose lives were destroyed by false accusations of sexual abuse by minors who later recanted. Both of whom had prior issues with truth and reality.

    So when you're REALLY sure, then its just a matter of deciding whether to stomach their execution or pay for their room and board for life.

    Prisons are huge pointless money pits. Whose primary function is to take the marginal and ruin them once and for all.

    But there are "animals", both sexual and non, who simply can't be allowed to run around with the kids and old people. Once identified the above dilemma kicks in, lock em up forever and pay to feed them or put them down.

    I like people and I believe in second chances.

    I am only talking about the incorrigibles, and advocating for more compensatory solutions for most offenders. And the elimination of victimless crimes completely.

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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I was going to reply to individual paragraphs and changed my mind. A sex offender is an all-encompassing term. If you're talking about pedophiles, I'm pretty much with ya'. But not all sex offenders are pedophiles!!! A sex offender might be a 21-year-old having consensual sex with a 17-year-old. Until the law differentiates between pedophiles and sex offenders, I am very uncomfortable with the restrictions you're recommending. We might as well shoot them.
    There are various terms we can catagorize these perverts into Maggie. It shouldn't matter what age the predator is, only the victim's age. And whatever age is deemed a minor who cannot give consent to sex.

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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Leave your god in your closet. And if you want to isolate them, stick them out in the desert somewhere with a fence & 200 miles of desert in every direction.
    That would work. An island is easier to keep people in. Whatever.

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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well if they were trying to prevent you from having gay sex...prison would probably be the last place to put ya.
    Gay sex sexual predator.
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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I largely agree, with an EXTREMELY high standard of evidence being necessary to being placed in that class.

    I have met two people in my life whose lives were destroyed by false accusations of sexual abuse by minors who later recanted. Both of whom had prior issues with truth and reality.

    So when you're REALLY sure, then its just a matter of deciding whether to stomach their execution or pay for their room and board for life.

    Prisons are huge pointless money pits. Whose primary function is to take the marginal and ruin them once and for all.

    But there are "animals", both sexual and non, who simply can't be allowed to run around with the kids and old people. Once identified the above dilemma kicks in, lock em up forever and pay to feed them or put them down.

    I like people and I believe in second chances.

    I am only talking about the incorrigibles, and advocating for more compensatory solutions for most offenders. And the elimination of victimless crimes completely.

    I only sound savagely cruel sometimes.
    Yes, when false accusations are discovered, the accuser should replace the victim & his/her time. And yes, we should be dead sure & have physical evidence.

    I put the bar so high that a pedophile won't even think of touching an illegal aged child. So high that we could eradicate this behavior, or least drive it so far underground few will attempt it. I really want a child molester to be tormented with tortured one year for each victim, and then promptly executed and thrown into a dumpster with the trash (no burial or name plot).

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    Re: Should Registered Offenders Be Allowed to live with minors?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I was going to reply to individual paragraphs and changed my mind. A sex offender is an all-encompassing term. If you're talking about pedophiles, I'm pretty much with ya'. But not all sex offenders are pedophiles!!! A sex offender might be a 21-year-old having consensual sex with a 17-year-old. Until the law differentiates between pedophiles and sex offenders, I am very uncomfortable with the restrictions you're recommending. We might as well shoot them.
    Hell, streaking at a football game can get you on a sex offender list forever.

    A distinction does need to be made between " sex offenders" and "sexual predators".

    RSO lists that include all offenders frighten unnecessarily, and drown the really dangerous in backlogs, as happened here in SD recently. Resulting in the deaths of two girls AFTER the RSO in question had been identified by DNA evidence gathered from a woman he attacked who kicked his ass.

    Probation too busy keeping track of compliance with various laws like the one above to catch him before he did it.
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