View Poll Results: Should the Young be allowed to Escape Paying In when they will never Draw Out?

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  • NO - I am over 40, and they should have to pay for me, even if they never draw out

    2 5.00%
  • YES - I am over 40, and they should be allowed to do so

    9 22.50%
  • SORTA - I'm over 40; they should be allowed to split their FICA between themselves and me

    3 7.50%
  • YES - I am under 40 and I would much rather not pay into an SS system I will never draw from

    21 52.50%
  • NO - I am under 40; I feel it's my obligation to pay the Boomers, though I will never see a dime

    5 12.50%
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Thread: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    ever hear of the great depression?
    So then there must be some pictorial or statistical evidence of all these piles of emaciated senior citizens lining the sidewalks during the Depression?

    Evidence, please. Any evidence at all?

    Didn't think so.

    Seniors were not starving in the streets. Did they suffer through the depression? Yes, but everyone else did, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonplussed View Post
    So then there must be some pictorial or statistical evidence of all these piles of emaciated senior citizens lining the sidewalks during the Depression?

    Evidence, please. Any evidence at all?

    Didn't think so.

    Seniors were not starving in the streets. Did they suffer through the depression? Yes, but everyone else did, too.
    "starving in the streets" is not meant to be literal. as we moved away from a farm economy, nuclear families became more the norm. and yes, seniors DID suffer. you don't know much about our history, do you?

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    I say this poll is silly and I will keep paying in. I am 25 and I might need it someday. I do think that there needs to be changes made to it however.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    "starving in the streets" is not meant to be literal.
    Great. Then you confess there was no holocaust of poverty stricken seniors failing to have their basic needs met before social security. So it stands to reason that without it, that's not a given.

    Thank you. Now was dropping the emotional extortion so hard?

    as we moved away from a farm economy, nuclear families became more the norm. and yes, seniors DID suffer.
    So did everyone else at times.

    you don't know much about our history, do you?
    I knew enough to call you on your bull**** so don't get too smug just yet.

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    "starving in the streets" is not meant to be literal.
    excellent. do you then agree that those who use that kind of hyperbolic language are lying? or are at least destroying the possibility of rational political discourse?


    and if not, then i have to ask - why do you want Al Quada to kill American children?

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    um....yes, they were.



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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Yes, the young should be allowed to escape the Ponzi Scheme.

    That being said, the burden is so huge it can't be escaped by anyone now alive. But the Ponzi Scheme should be killed, with a ash stake through it's heart, with its head cut off and stuffed with garlic and salt, and buried in the crossroads at midnight, and the body buried in a coffin stuffed with wild white roses.

    And there should be something equivalent to the Holocaust Musuem, with the words "Never Again" over the doorway. "Don't Be So Stupid" can be engraved in the marble foyer.

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    I have a question for all those against SS and Medicare and Medicaid.

    Do away with all of them ok...then what happens to the MILLIONS of people who get to old to work that never made enough to save for a pension and health benefits, please dont try and say thats their own fault unless you work in walmart full time and are able to live today and save a bundle for tomorrow. We are talking MILLIONS of people.

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I have a question for all those against SS and Medicare and Medicaid.

    Do away with all of them ok...then what happens to the MILLIONS of people who get to old to work that never made enough to save for a pension and health benefits, please dont try and say thats their own fault unless you work in walmart full time and are able to live today and save a bundle for tomorrow. We are talking MILLIONS of people.
    Everyone makes enough to save a little. Social Security was never meant to be what you live on. Just because people made it so doesn't mean they're doing the right thing. It's supposed to be supplemental to your own retirement funds.

    In any case, phasing it out would most likely have to be done in intervals.
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I have a question for all those against SS and Medicare and Medicaid.

    Do away with all of them ok...then what happens to the MILLIONS of people who get to old to work that never made enough to save for a pension and health benefits, please dont try and say thats their own fault unless you work in walmart full time and are able to live today and save a bundle for tomorrow. We are talking MILLIONS of people.
    You'd see a return to stronger family support for their elderly. As it should be. The government should not be doing what people should be doing for themselves and their own.

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