View Poll Results: Should the Young be allowed to Escape Paying In when they will never Draw Out?

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  • NO - I am over 40, and they should have to pay for me, even if they never draw out

    2 5.00%
  • YES - I am over 40, and they should be allowed to do so

    9 22.50%
  • SORTA - I'm over 40; they should be allowed to split their FICA between themselves and me

    3 7.50%
  • YES - I am under 40 and I would much rather not pay into an SS system I will never draw from

    21 52.50%
  • NO - I am under 40; I feel it's my obligation to pay the Boomers, though I will never see a dime

    5 12.50%
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    and no doubt you are currently starving in the snow?

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    The choices listed show a definite bias intended to produce a skewed result. As such, the poll is rendered irrelevant.

    I would have voted for the following choice

    NO - they themselves will benefit someday
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    View Poll Results: Should the Young be allowed to Escape Paying In when they will never Draw Out?
    I am under 40 and I say we should be allowed to opt out of something we are not going to collect in the future. As a matter of fact I think we should be a refund for the money we did put into SS.Because SS is one of one of those things people pay into with the intention that basically one day they will get it back.
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As for the FICA tax being the heaviest burden placed on them...hardly. The federal tax takes way more out of thier checks than does FICA. Same with the state tax...though to a bit lesser of a degree compared to the federal.
    For 47% of American taxpayers, FICA and Medicare is the largest Federal tax they pay....'cause they don't pay any Federal income taxes at all.
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    I'd probably opt out, and just take the portion of my check they would take out, and put it in an interest bearing account myself.
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    For 47% of American taxpayers, FICA and Medicare is the largest Federal tax they pay....'cause they don't pay any Federal income taxes at all.
    That's sounds right you are withheld 7.65 percent of all earnings and there is no minimum limit.

    My dad would match whatever i put into the bank. That's what social security does. It's not really a tax. It's more what dad was doing.

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    I opt out of this bogus poll with its unsubstantiated premise. Social Security will be there in full for our children and our children's children. The issues associated to it are pretty straightforward to correct.
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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    I can't really count on SS being there for me in 40 years, but opting out isn't that easy. The system doesn't actually return the money you paid in and needs current tax revenues for funding. Social security provides needed social stability among the old and suddenly cutting off the money would have consequences. Ideally SS will get enough reforms like an increased retirement age that it can continue to make ends meet. Failing that, it needs to be phased out gradually to minimize the fallout.

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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I didnt respond to the poll because of the way its worded. The young are being brainwashed by the rich. The rich do not want to pay into social security or medicare because they dont need it. That amounts to a whopping maybe 5% the rest of the country does need it in varying degrees.
    They told me 40 yrs ago SS wouldnt be there for me...someole sameole nothing changes.
    The RICH want you in 401ks so they have more control over more money and can manipulate it more...ask the Employees of Worldcom and Enron what they think of 401ks. There are no guarantees with 401ks, if the pigs at the trough decide to steal it...they got it. When your ready to retire if the market is down and your 401k investments are down you take a big hit.
    The teaparty has their govs giving tax breaks to the richest americans and corporations and attacking public workers to pay for it...Ryan has the ordasity to virtually brutalize the middle class and poor and to promote giving a huge tax cut to the wealthiest.
    BULL**** any working class america that buys into this young or old is a damn fool.
    Ive written my congressman and told him flat out...Paul Ryan and his plan sucks and anyone that supports it will not get my vote PERIOD I got a feeling im not the only one that told him this...hes having phone town halls and sending reps out everywhere to have meetings because he knows its in trouble in his district in fla
    Remember this..Florida is retiree heaven and the GOP MUST HAVE FLORIDA to win the presidency...do some of that math CP will
    Dude you are so brain washed.. How can actually believe this tripe?


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    Re: Should the Young be Allowed to Opt Out?

    Bogus poll. What exactly is the motivation to do a bogus poll?

    I’ve paid in for others. (We did get too much ahead and ‘loaned’ the money for other expenses like stupid wars, e.g. Vietnam. But, that money can be repaid with normal taxes.) Now I’m collecting from those that are earning now. My SS check is a small but significant portion of our funds. For one of our neighbors their SS check is very significant. Very nice people, worked hard but a low paying jobs. Didn’t save much, but paid SS. The forced SS program has saved them and their ‘neighbors’.

    Again, what exactly is the motivation to do a bogus poll?

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