[QUOTE=SheWolf;1059427916]Get over it. You opened yourself up to it when you decided to lecture me about my "****ty attitude". Can't take the heat? Well you know where you can shove it, right?Again,
STOP LECTURING ME
I didn't repeat the things you said. I expounded upon them. I can see conversation isn't your strong point either.Why do you insist on repeating the very things I said???
What points were those again? Something about liberal hating, senior citizens holocausts and ****ty attitudes? If you care to make an actual point, feel free.I guess so you miss the bigger point I was trying to make....
What the hell do you think SS is, lady? It's a forced retirement plan...a forced entitlement.Force people.... I never advocated any of the such. Again, maybe you should read my posts before writing your responses.
I'm not surprised by that at all considering the "us against them", partisan black and white mentality you revealed about yourself earlier.I do have a lack of faith in the fellow man...
Well when I see one generation saddling the next with the debt for their retirement shenanigans, I see a bit of selfishness there too.The inaction of people is more a problem than my faith in it, and when I read your selfish statements about 80 year olds eating cat food it kind of reinforces that image I have of people.
I never made a comment about 80 year olds. People retire at 65, I believe.
I wouldn't watch an 80 year old (or a 40 year old for that matter) that I knew eat cat food either. But that's my choice. And as long as SS is around, yes the government is forcing that issue.If you really care about your community as much as you claim, then why is so difficult for you to understand where I come from? I don't want to see an 80 year old eat cat food. I would do something about that myself. I expect other people to do it as well. I don't expect the government to force it.
For what we give to SS and get back, we could fund thousands of local foundations to do it cheaper, more efficiently, and with better results. And save for ourselves and support our loved ones.
What makes you say that? Do you know how much charity money is spent in this country?Look around the ****ing world and at the state of this country... it's pretty apparent that there is a lack of action and good will.
But you support a government program to do what private citizens should be doing themselves. So yeah, you did say it's the government's obligation.Again, I never said it's governments obligation...
No, it doesn't. But it has also created artificial social mechanisms that have made family bonds less necessary and so, socially, family structures have deteriorated.It's not my family... It's just not an uncommon occurrence that people don't have the money to support three generations of their family, especially in this economy. Other times people are selfish you know, and the government doesn't enforce us to care, love, or help our parents.
Actually, I am gay, prochoice, and a heathen but don't let me be responsible for shattering your carefully crafted preconceptions of what politics a person should subscribe to.Ok... you probably live in some pro (heterosexual, pro life, religious) family values bubble, right?
And I have consistently said that charity should step in to assist those who are unfortunate in that regard. I work with AIDS patients and I see many of them seperated from their family. I know that it happens.Well, maybe we just come from two different worlds because I happen to be involved with survivors of incest and abuse... I know a lot of people from very dysfunctional family backgrounds. Some people don't have the luxury of depending on a family that treats with basic respect or kindness.
I never said that.Some people don't know about loving families... it doesn't make them ignorant or stupid. It's just a fact of reality.
But it's so much fun to deflate it before it ever gets used again.You're still clinging to this strawman?
Meh. That was mostly in reaction to elderly brats telling me I don't know anything about responsibility just because I happen to disagree with letting them go on the dole, guaranteed, at age 65.It's ideal that society could do away with SS and everybody would have a comfortable life, which is something I would throw my support behind and help make the necessary changes myself. It will take community involvement and caring for the 80 year olds eating cat food, and it will take rebuilding everybody's faith in man and in the community.
Lecturing people and telling us that you're not obligated to give a ****, isn't going to accomplish anything.
So then, you don't want that social security check when it's time for them to start?I have never received a check from the government.... For somebody crying about assumptions, you're quick to make them yourself.