Lady, you don't know the first thing about me. You don't spend time with me one Saturday and one Sunday a month working with the AIDS Project delivering meals to shut in patients. You don't write the checks that I write to three different local charities and you don't see the automatic drafts from my bank account each month for ongoing contributions to two more. I don't give a flying **** how you find my attitude toward this issue because, frankly, I find your attitude of looking to a nebulous, institutional and establishment entity to force people to do what they should be doing for themselves to be weak minded and lazy. I find your lack of faith in your fellow man to be ****ty and a big part of the problem that allowed the SS fiasco to start with.I am complaining that this is an institutionalized attitude that needs to be changed... of course I know nobody is really obligated to help anybody else. All I am saying is that I find your attitude to be ****ty, and why an 80 year eating cat food would look to the government to help her before looking for a good and willing Samaritans in her community to help her.
I never made the first comment about conservatives or liberals but thank you very much for revealing what this discussion is to you: another chance to go stark raving mad with partisan cheerleading and condemnation of "the other guys". No wonder you have such little faith in your fellow man.You probably think liberals are the problem... when in fact, I think the liberals are trying to help because society is infected with people like you, not willing to help other people.
But it's somehow the government and society's obligation now? And you don't see a problem with this picture you are painting?Once you're 18, your family isn't obligated to do **** for you.
Then I would say there's a systemic problem in your family and the way you raised your kids.If you're 80 years old and eating cat food, you're parents are dead... and your kids might not give a **** about your old ass or have the money to support you.
You're gonna do that whether you're getting written a government check every month or not. How much more independent, though, to be surrounded by loved ones and to rely on the lifetime of bonding and love you built with those closest to you instead of relying on an inefficient government to come through with a promise it may or may not be able to keep?People don't want to feel like a burden at any stage in their life... When you're old, you lose your independence...
You don't know jack ****, apparently. Caring for one's own is an expression of love and loyalty you apparently don't know **** about either.I know you don't care about your community or anybody else but your own... We have established your ****ty attitude is far from being a solution to these issues.
No one said to ignore the impoverished.It is societies problem... Again, you are mistaken if you think ignoring the impoverished isn't going to affect you.
And you can cry and whine about the elderly holocaust that never happened all you want...You can beat your drum on and on about this all you want,
And I have every right to make arguments for my viewpoint and join together in voting blocks with others who feel the same way I do. And hopefully, make SS a thing of the past one day.but they have a right to vote and they might as well ignore your lecturing and scolding and vote for more social assistance if nothing else is done.
[/QUOTE]Then all you'll be able to do is keep repeating this tried old rhetoric, and repeating it, and repeating it... because you have nothing to offer.
And all you'll be able to do is keep crying and whining...and cryig and whining because you aren't getting your government check in the mail anymore and might actually have to stand on your own two feet for once.