View Poll Results: Would you give up your Social Security?

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Hell no. Even as a conservative I paid into it all these years, damn skippy I want my money back.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Hell no. Even as a conservative I paid into it all these years, damn skippy I want my money back.
    A. it's not "your" money.

    B. the money you paid into it is long, long, long gone.

    C. continuing the system as it is (along with Medicare) will bankrupt the nation, so;

    D. you might as well get used to the fact that it's not going to happen.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A. it's not "your" money.
    I put money into it, and I am going to get money out. It's good to be older.

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    B. the money you paid into it is long, long, long gone.
    And yet I will get it back until I am long, long gone.

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    C. continuing the system as it is (along with Medicare) will bankrupt the nation, so;
    I am glad I am retired.

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    D. you might as well get used to the fact that it's not going to happen.
    And you mite as well get used to the fact I am over 40.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    If I could opt out, you could keep every dime I've contributed since I was 14(almost 14 years now).

    My earning power on the money I could divert to my own investments would blow that pathetic SS payment out of the water.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Let's be fair. It is a wealth redistribution system, not an investment system; thus, the likes of you will not be "opting out".

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    I actually agree with HG. If I could have opted out a long time ago, I would have. HG is absolutely correct.

    I don't think it is intended to be any kind of wealth distribution system, it was intended as a safety net for people who did not have pensions and were very poor etc.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    It is a safety net based on a ponzi scheme and it is borrowing from the next generation with no real apparent ability to pay the debt, both are redistributing wealth; from payers to current poor and from tomorrow to today.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonplussed View Post
    Old people weren't dying slow painful deaths prior to the advent of social security. They were living with their children, actively taking part in the raising of their grandchildren, supporting their families by being around. And they saved and worked longer. Now, our people live lives far beyond their means instead of saving and when time comes to retire, it's still taken care of for them. And you see the breakdown of tight family bonds because of it...all the interdependency of generations of family has been undone. That's what government interference will get you.
    This is a great example of a good conservative argument... i like, just the problem is there are a lot of people that just want to break that system to it's very core; people try to get away as far as possible from the "the son bears the sins of the father" deal... people want to be absolute individuals where family doesnt really exist or play a part in it's original way, because there are f'd up families out there... But i think this way of thinking actually makes it worse then actually better( looking at other cultures like Japan)... idk im borderline conservative in this fashion.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I put money into it, and I am going to get money out. It's good to be older.



    And yet I will get it back until I am long, long gone.



    I am glad I am retired.



    And you mite as well get used to the fact I am over 40.
    I understand those people who still don't like the system, but paid their money into it all these years because they had to and have planned to rely on it. Hell, i would want my money back, but me as a young person... i don't want this when i am older... i don't want it to take my money... i want to plan my own retirement with that money and not leave it up to the government.

    I don't think it is fair to take it away for people over 40(?!), but i think people under that should not expect to have SS when their older... the country is bankrupt, and it is a flawed system that isn't really fair, and i support a periodic decline in SS to the point where it just goes away to help boost the economy and reduce spending.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Well possibly now that I think about it. I am only 19 and have paid very little into SS so I would not be losing very much, and have no problem contributing a fair amount of money toward entitlement programs. However, I plan on being self employed in the future as a farmer.
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