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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
    I agree with you. The gamble could also apply to me collecting SS. One can have faith in the entitlement not going bankrupt. One can also have faith in the market to fund his/her retirement.
    Forget faith. Work to fix. I choose hard work over faith any day of the week.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
    I agree with you. The gamble could also apply to me collecting SS. One can have faith in the entitlement not going bankrupt. One can also have faith in the market to fund his/her retirement.
    Social Security is not going to go bankrupt. If current amounts are contributed to the SS Fund as they are now, benefits will continue unaltered until 2040. After 2040 the benefits will be reduced by 75% until the end of the century, if nothing is done to change how it is being funded.

    Based on the fact that we are living longer, and people are working longer, increasing the age from 65 to 67 could keep current benefits stable for some time. There a host of other changes that can be done, and should be done, to keep SS for generations to come. Keep in mind that we are seeing concern for Social Security because the Baby Boomers are now retiring, which accounts for at 68 million people retiring over the next 20 years, but what is not being discussed is the next generation after the Baby Boomers. Gen XYZ now accounts for over 80 million people, and the number will continue to rise. So we have the people to fund SS, and we can continue funding it as long as we adjust for mortality rates and expenses.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonplussed View Post
    There was no foul language or insults in my post. And no, I will not set out to read a post that begins with a lecture on ettiquette directed at my own post.
    Great debating skills. You go to Yale with Turtle?

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Discuss.

    i vote no, and i am over 40.
    Sorry, why would I do this? What do I get in return? Then I'll let you know.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Great debating skills. You go to Yale with Turtle?
    Don't lecture people if you want your input to have value. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

    And great job insulting. You should go off and lecture yourself.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    Social Security is not going to go bankrupt. If current amounts are contributed to the SS Fund as they are now, benefits will continue unaltered until 2040. After 2040 the benefits will be reduced by 75% until the end of the century, if nothing is done to change how it is being funded.

    Based on the fact that we are living longer, and people are working longer, increasing the age from 65 to 67 could keep current benefits stable for some time. There a host of other changes that can be done, and should be done, to keep SS for generations to come. Keep in mind that we are seeing concern for Social Security because the Baby Boomers are now retiring, which accounts for at 68 million people retiring over the next 20 years, but what is not being discussed is the next generation after the Baby Boomers. Gen XYZ now accounts for over 80 million people, and the number will continue to rise. So we have the people to fund SS, and we can continue funding it as long as we adjust for mortality rates and expenses.
    How about interest on the debt? They'll be using your SS to pay for it.
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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    I basically go with what Nonplussed said. I'd like to be refunded what I paid in or at least collect on what I've paid in so far when the time comes, have it revoked tomorrow, and then be allowed to spend/invest with my own decisions.

    I don't like investing in a giant slush fund with a PC title like "Social Security".

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    As long as I would no longer have to pay the tax, I would absolutely be willing to give it up and all the money I've put into it thus far.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    see, you and i agree. why should anyone think it's fair to give the wealthy tax breaks when the same people want to take away ss? how can people be so stupid?
    You see it happening. I see it happening. Some others see it also.

    There is a very purposeful and deliberate in this nation to pretend to create one financial crisis after another for the expressed purpose of repealing most of the progressive advances of the 20th century. This comes from the far right in the form of conservatives and libertarians who have bought an ideology, know that they cannot sell this ideology to a majority of Americans, so instead intend to impose it on the masses.

    Some of this is being done through conservative judicial activism as evidenced by the Citizens United decision. Some of it is being done via Republican gains in off year elections when the voting turnout is down. Some of it merely right wing propaganda to get people to vote against their own self interests because they have drunk the kook-aid.

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    Re: Are YOU willing to give up YOUR Social Security?

    Social security was a great investment for me. At last count, I've gotten back ten times more than I put in, and growing every month...

    Viva Social Security

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