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Thread: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well Z, it's quite simple. If you were a Democrat, reforming even $1 worth of Welfare, SS or Medicare would like jamming a screwdriver into your eye, then stuff a stick of dynamite into the hole and blowing up your head.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    corrected.........
    Are there any conservatives that want to have an actual discussion on the topic, or are you guys going to just stick with mindless one liner namecalling?
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    ....shall we discuss Bammy's negatives now

    The man is ruining your Party...
    Then you should be quiet and not tell them!
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    exactly, its not hard to demonize the gop with all the cuts to benefits that NORMAL americans have, and are currently benefiting from. not to mention the direct war on the poor and minorities brought up through defunding food stamps, now they wanna starve them too. although we've already proven as a whole, were idiots and will elect people, continuously, that are after the little we have left to give, just for corporate tax breaks. haha god were so poorly educated


    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Assuming they use it properly, this will absolutely help democrats. All they need to do is advertise what is actually in the bill.
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i'm unaware of any such assault. are they gunning working people down in the streets? perhaps they are putting in legislation that forbids folks with working class parents from attaining government positions?

    however, 6 out of 10 households recieve more from the Federal Government than they pay in taxes. you just plain don't reduce the deficit without changing that math.



    evil, evil republicans, wanting you to have a job. why, the nerve of them.

    oh wait, are you referncing the non-existant "tax cuts" in the Ryan plan?



    yup, Republicans took a pretty big risk deciding to be the party that went first in acting like adults. Unfortunately, Democrats seem more interested in seizing what political advantage they can from Republicans making that risky move than they do in following suit. Now we get to see if the American people are fundamentally adults, or if we will bang our sippy cups and scream for endless goodies.
    Or the countries' other adults will get really tired of being referred to as children by children.

    I know I'm REALLY tired of hearing suspiciously incomplete examples presented as obvious fact that any adult can see.

    Examples that present OBVIOUS questions that none of you will provide useful answers for. Just repetitions of the same absolute, assumptive positions that I didn't believe the first time. Delivered with what can only be described as a pompous air.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    ...welcome to fiscal reality.
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    I think it will be interesting what comes out in may from the bipartisan senate committee. I am thinking that this proposal will come down between Ryan's and the presidents plan. I think that this group will come out with something more likely to be passed.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are there any conservatives that want to have an actual discussion on the topic, or are you guys going to just stick with mindless one liner namecalling?
    Yes yes, please...focus on them and not the conservative they quoted that WAS attempting an actual discussion on the topic. That will surely get the conversation going!

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Assuming they use it properly, this will absolutely help democrats. All they need to do is advertise what is actually in the bill.
    Right, and make sure they add the number of jobs it will cost on each line item, all ten of them.

    Most people find it impossible to relate with billions, can't visualize all those zeros, can't get interested, but are very much into it when it's about losing jobs.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is a state run pool. I think that for insurance to be sold in that state, they would need to be part of that pool kinda thing. The CBO points out that this will raise the cost of insurance for every one.
    Awesome!

    A useful answer to a reasonable question.

    Moving the conversation forward.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well Z, it's quite simple. If you were a Democrat, reforming even $1 worth of Welfare, SS or Medicare would like jamming a screwdriver into your eye, then stuff a stick of dynamite into the hole and blowing up your head.
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    One down, four to go, right?
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