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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    I agree cut foreign aid, etc. Then we can talk taxes.
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    So what we get from all that is that 2020 for insolvency is not accurate, that in fact solutions exist that do not in essence destroy Medicare, and a program which adds to the public debt is bad only if it was not enacted by republicans(Part D). Interesting how you spin it, but at least now you have read it.

    By the way, while Ryan's plan does address the problem, it is just about the worst possible solution, especially since it does nothing with the underlying problem, which is the fact health care costs grow significantly faster than inflation. In fact, since under Ryan's plan the increases in the amount the government kicks in for health care is tied to inflation, it means costs will rise even more rapidly for the elderly.
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    hilarious even politifact can't spin that one.




    buuuut unfortunately i bet it will be effective
    Yeah, it will be, and yeah, it's sad. I despise dishonest rhetoric, no matter who does it.
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    He has no illusions that it will get through...what it does do however is force Obama out into the open...and we've already seen this.
    What you're saying is it isn't about balancing the budget, it's really about scoring political points.

    Good... Every employed worker in the country just took a deep breath.

    Cutting back in the middle of a recession will only make it worse. No job, less spending, more foreclosures, more homeless.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    What you're saying is it isn't about balancing the budget, it's really about scoring political points.

    Good... Every employed worker in the country just took a deep breath.

    Cutting back in the middle of a recession will only make it worse. No job, less spending, more foreclosures, more homeless.

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    Realistically reasonable cuts should be doable by now. By the time they actually take concrete effect the economy should be going close to full bore again. Remember we are now up to dealing with the 2012 budget.
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what we get from all that is that 2020 for insolvency is not accurate, that in fact solutions exist that do not in essence destroy Medicare, and a program which adds to the public debt is bad only if it was not enacted by republicans(Part D). Interesting how you spin it, but at least now you have read it.

    By the way, while Ryan's plan does address the problem, it is just about the worst possible solution, especially since it does nothing with the underlying problem, which is the fact health care costs grow significantly faster than inflation. In fact, since under Ryan's plan the increases in the amount the government kicks in for health care is tied to inflation, it means costs will rise even more rapidly for the elderly.

    Exactly, put in simpler terms ryans plan just sucks unless of course your in the top tax bracket then its Christmas, Channukah and whatever other holiday flips your switch for the super rich

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    The majority of Americans are opposed to tax cuts for the rich and support SS and M/M. The GOP made the fatal mistake of showing their hand too early. They will pay for it in the 2012 election.
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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Democrats figured out a while ago that their best bet in 2012 was demagoguery, lies, and avoiding the problem.
    Just like what the Republications would do under the same situation. Amazing just how much alike their political scheming is.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The majority of Americans are opposed to tax cuts for the rich and support SS and M/M. The GOP made the fatal mistake of showing their hand too early. They will pay for it in the 2012 election.
    14.5 trillion in debt....increasing debt to 15.5 by the end of this FY. Congress that spends money like crack addicts. World investors that are on the verge of killing our credit rating. A dependent class that wants more spending...more money. Oh yes...you are 'on' to the conservative game plan...debt reduction and avoidig a financial collapse.

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    Re: The Ryan/Republican Budget - 2012 elections

    No, it's called political reality...and every step leads to the next...I am saying that the arguement has been framed...and the battle joined.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    What you're saying is it isn't about balancing the budget, it's really about scoring political points.

    Good... Every employed worker in the country just took a deep breath.

    Cutting back in the middle of a recession will only make it worse. No job, less spending, more foreclosures, more homeless.

    ricksfolly
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