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Thread: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    If people don't know what a CD is, how can you expect them to plan for their retirement.
    It's THEIR problem. Not the Mayor's. Get it?

    The government was not framed as it was to hold little children by the hand and guide them across the street, making sure they didn't step in the horse poo. The people who created the United States expected the people to be mature adults, not whiny little children in a perpetual state of immaturity and dependency.

    That's the Mayor's expectation, also. That if they don't grow up and if they choose to fritter away their earnings, then when they're old, and even more feeble minded than when they were younger, they can die of whatever it is that kills them, but whatever that might be, it was never the Mayor's problem and the Mayor was never, not once, obligated to be their nanny, nor was the Mayor ever obligated to pay for their nanny, either.

    Any taxation imposed to care for these idiots is clearly in violation of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, and all such taxes are collected under the direct threat of extreme physical violence perpetrated by the government upon the Mayor's body.

    If all the government is doing is keeping your money in a lockbox and its a program where you can opt out, you have a serious concern against that?
    Considering the government was supposed to do just that, and SPENT IT ALL, TWICE, yes, the Mayor has some small qualms about trusting the government with money.

    It's nice to see you trust them...

    I want SS to end, too, but your stance here is ridiculous.
    No. You clearly do not want it to end, you still believe in the fairy tale.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    It's THEIR problem. Not the Mayor's. Get it?

    The government was not framed as it was to hold little children by the hand and guide them across the street, making sure they didn't step in the horse poo. The people who created the United States expected the people to be mature adults, not whiny little children in a perpetual state of immaturity and dependency.

    That's the Mayor's expectation, also. That if they don't grow up and if they choose to fritter away their earnings, then when they're old, and even more feeble minded than when they were younger, they can die of whatever it is that kills them, but whatever that might be, it was never the Mayor's problem and the Mayor was never, not once, obligated to be their nanny, nor was the Mayor ever obligated to pay for their nanny, either.

    Any taxation imposed to care for these idiots is clearly in violation of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, and all such taxes are collected under the direct threat of extreme physical violence perpetrated by the government upon the Mayor's body.



    Considering the government was supposed to do just that, and SPENT IT ALL, TWICE, yes, the Mayor has some small qualms about trusting the government with money.

    It's nice to see you trust them...



    No. You clearly do not want it to end, you still believe in the fairy tale.
    I would opt out.

    If people voluntarily give their money to the government to save for them in a lockbox, it's their free choice to do so. Just like you're free to send any additional money you want to the IRS each year.

    Voluntary means "extreme physical violence perpetrated by the government" to you?
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    He's a socialist.



    He's a socialist.




    Yes, it's really sad when the Democrat caucus is farther to the left and even more hateful of America than the self-proclaimed socialist.

    Since, however, he is a socialist hates what America stands for, and hates individual freedom, because that's part of what socialism is about.
    Wait so if your a socialist "your a hater of freedom"? I am a socialist and i love freedom... You obviously have no idea what socialism is..
    Where in the constitution does it state what economic policy we have? I am a socialist and i agree with the constitution 100%. Still you obviously have no idea what socialism is..
    Wait sense one socialist is in the Democratic caucus that makes all the democrats socialists and "far leftist"?
    You sir sound truly ignorant. I truly hope that you are being just sarcastic........

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wait so if your a socialist "your a hater of freedom"? I am a socialist and i love freedom... You obviously have no idea what socialism is..
    Where in the constitution does it state what economic policy we have? I am a socialist and i agree with the constitution 100%. Still you obviously have no idea what socialism is..
    Wait sense one socialist is in the Democratic caucus that makes all the democrats socialists and "far leftist"?
    You sir sound truly ignorant. I truly hope that you are being just sarcastic........
    Give me one good incentive to work if all my income is being redistributed anyway.
    Personal freedom means that if I work harder than you, I will end up better off than you.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    The system needs to be restructured and replaced with a private system that is standardized and controlled strictly but absolutely not run the Government and have varying levels and allow people to choose one.

    The system Must be affordable and open to everyone and companies must be allowed to operate in all 50 States and allow people of means to opt out upon proof they can take care of themselves without any help.

    The current SS System needs to be shut down over a long time and new systems are put on line.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you clearly didn't understand the point of the person you attacked--you didn't understand that when he talked about individuals he was obviously incorporating their representatives

    maybe we should have a poll-if you want to put my debate capabilities into question. I wonder who thinks your posts demonstrate a high level of intellect
    Need you ask? There is no doubt your posts demonstrate a lower level of intellect than Justabubba!
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Give me one good incentive to work if all my income is being redistributed anyway.
    Personal freedom means that if I work harder than you, I will end up better off than you.
    The same incentives all the rich people had for the 80 years we had a progressive tax system during one of the most prosperous periods in our history.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I would opt out.

    If people voluntarily give their money to the government to save for them in a lockbox, it's their free choice to do so. Just like you're free to send any additional money you want to the IRS each year.

    Voluntary means "extreme physical violence perpetrated by the government" to you?
    It may be "their free choice to do so", but the Government does not have the Constitutional authority to create such a magical device nor maintain it.

    Perhaps if people grew up they could figure out a way to save their own money and not spend it? It's really not the repsonsibility of the nation's goverment to play nursemaid. It's especially not supposed to be a wet nurse.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The same incentives all the rich people had for the 80 years we had a progressive tax system during one of the most prosperous periods in our history.
    Just imagine how prosperous it could have been if the rich weren't being robbed.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Keep it and give people the option to opt out of it if they like. As someone that knows several that have been helped by ssi republican democrat disabled and elderly alike it should be always a right to all Americans.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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