View Poll Results: Should we Eliminate Social Security

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  • No, we should wait until it goes bankrupt

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Thread: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Representatives, but they should not have nearly as much power as they do today.
    The people have the power to replace their Representatives every two years!
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick345 View Post
    It's not funny at all I copy and paste whenever possible it saves time, and wear and tare on my spell checker
    I just found it ironic that you were critiquing the number by citing it's own generator.

    So you did but, I'm curious we you never mentioned the stardard deviation on the forular used to determine someone would achieve a 8.31% return on their money? Which by the way happens to be 16.37 which means that while 68% of time people would receive 8.31% on their money which would be a healthy return... But, 16% of the time people would receive 27.31% a very nice return indeed but, the flip side is there is a 16% chance someone would lose 11.69% on their money and that would be devistating.
    if you were to invest a major amount of money over a single year, yes, it would be. but you are not doing that - you are investing a relatively small amount of money over a long time. it is virtually the definition of dollar cost averaging.

    By and large I agree with you but, without credit one would have no credit score and without a credit score one would have touble buying a big ticket item such as a house or car.
    not true. you can buy cars cash (that is how I have purchased every vehicle I have ever owned), and if your bank does underwriting then not having a history of debt is far less important than having a history of paying rent, having a 20% downpayment, having your projected monthly mortgage be less than a third of your monthly take-home pay, having a hefty emergency fund, and having no other creditors.

    I don't live debt free I do use a credit card when I go on trips as well but, its my own and its more convent and safer than carrying wads of cash or even traveler checks.
    which is why I have a check card.

    Well how did you manage that, you must have had a credit card or bought a house or car on credit at one time in order to have a credit score at all..
    hellifiknow. all I can imagine is that my check card use somehow ties in.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The people have the power to replace their Representatives every two years!
    Allow me to give you a mission..

    Go around state to state that has long standing representatives and tell them this.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Allow me to give you a mission..

    Go around state to state that has long standing representatives and tell them this.
    People have the power. It is up to them to exercise it. We get the government we deserve!
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The people have the power to replace their Representatives every two years!
    Not senators, not the president. And besides, the problem is their essentially unlimited power. Democracy cannot control itself, that's why the Constitution was made. The day we started ignoring it is the day this country started faltering from its spectacular growth.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    People have the power. It is up to them to exercise it. We get the government we deserve!
    Yes, I know, but shouldn't you inform people that their choices are poor?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Not senators, not the president. And besides, the problem is their essentially unlimited power. Democracy cannot control itself, that's why the Constitution was made. The day we started ignoring it is the day this country started faltering from its spectacular growth.
    We can change our senators every 6 years and presidents every 4 years. How is their power unlimited? Ignoring the Constitution? Are you another anarchist who doesn't believe in the rule of law?
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, I know, but shouldn't you inform people that their choices are poor?
    Who's to decide who's choices are poor. If the majority of the people make a stupid choice than a stupid outcome results. Unless your plan is to get a whole new group of American citizens, our representative government can only be as smart as the group that elects it. If you want to change the government, you have to convince the majority of the people of the validity of your plan as it relates to them.

    As I said before, we get the government we deserve.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who's to decide who's choices are poor. If the majority of the people make a stupid choice than a stupid outcome results. Unless your plan is to get a whole new group of American citizens, our representative government can only be as smart as the group that elects it. If you want to change the government, you have to convince the majority of the people of the validity of your plan as it relates to them.

    As I said before, we get the government we deserve.
    Yes, like I said I know we get the government we deserve and I make that point all the time, however, as a person like yourself that wants to make the world the perfect place, want people to given everything they need, shouldn't you be more active on fixing this problem? Are you not interested in the short coming of the world? Do you not care?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, like I said I know we get the government we deserve and I make that point all the time, however, as a person like yourself that wants to make the world the perfect place,
    There is no such place and i have never said that. How about we just stick to the truth here.


    want people to given everything they need,
    Nope, never said that either. There is really no need to lie to try to make your points.

    shouldn't you be more active on fixing this problem?
    Exactly why I support a solution to the root of the problem rather than just the consequences of the problem that the GOP wishes to address.

    Are you not interested in the short coming of the world? Do you not care?
    Yes, i care very much. That is why it is imperative that we address our main problems today - peak oil, the highest health care cost in the world, 30 years of cutting our income, climate change, and paying for undending optional wars through debt and robbing SS funds.
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