View Poll Results: Should we Eliminate Social Security

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  • Yes, no replacement

    18 30.00%
  • Yes, but with a replacement

    11 18.33%
  • No, we should wait until it goes bankrupt

    1 1.67%
  • No, its not going to go bankrupt

    26 43.33%
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Thread: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Its not our powers that are limited its the governments. Theirs are limited and ours encompass everything beyond that.
    then it's settled. the people have the opportunity to overturn anything the government has enacted which the puublic opposes

    and regarding the topic subject of the social security program, the public (nor the court) has done so

    that pretty much extinguishes the opposition's arguments. thanks for the help
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    So you don't like the idea of someone matching your savings deposits.?

    My dad matched all my savings and I had a nice car at 16. I'm for it.
    What does saving have to do with social security?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Its not our powers that are limited its the governments. Theirs are limited and ours encompass everything beyond that.
    Our powers to interfere with the workings of the government after we've established it by elections is limited.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Our powers to interfere with the workings of the government after we've established it by elections is limited.
    False. Elected officials do not have the right to do anything they please.
    Give a man a fish, or he will destroy the only existing vial of antidote.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then it's settled. the people have the opportunity to overturn anything the government has enacted which the puublic opposes

    and regarding the topic subject of the social security program, the public (nor the court) has done so

    that pretty much extinguishes the opposition's arguments. thanks for the help
    I frankly do not understand what you are arguing here. The people have overturned ss?
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I frankly do not understand what you are arguing here. The people have overturned ss?
    that they haven't despite, your acknowledgment that they (we the people) have the power to do so should they believe that course of action is needed

    since they can, but have not been inclined to do so, should be ample indication that this social security program is not found unConstitutional by the courts or the public
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that they haven't despite, your acknowledgment that they (we the people) have the power to do so should they believe that course of action is needed

    since they can, but have not been inclined to do so, should be ample indication that this social security program is not found unConstitutional by the courts or the public
    Hard to do so when you're not the one with the guns.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Hard to do so when you're not the one with the guns.
    i am confused (admittedly, a frequent state). do you stand by the above post or this one?
    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Its not our powers that are limited its the governments. Theirs are limited and ours encompass everything beyond that.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    False. Elected officials do not have the right to do anything they please.
    I never said that. I said the people's power to disrupt the government after they've established it by voting is limited. That means we can't do whatever we want. The Constitution already establishes the extent of the government's power, but that is a somewhat seperate subject.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    That scheme failed, and was never implemented, therefore the integrity of the court remained intact.
    It succeeded, the supreme court let him get away with his nonsense.
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