View Poll Results: Should we Eliminate Social Security

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Thread: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    The Preamble? what are you a senator that thinks the word A allows them unlimited power?

    That is just dumb. You remind me of the time I posted a video on another forum where a senator said the preamble was the reason the healthcare law was constitutional in a town hall meeting and instead of being greeted with anger was greeted with laughter.

    I have to watch that video again! I will post it if I find it.
    Last edited by Henrin; 04-19-11 at 01:17 AM.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    This argument takes no effort, no knowledge, and zero ability. You need to do better than say the courts decide stuff. It doesn't fly. If I was only interested in what a body of people that build cases on top of cases in complete ignorance thought I wouldn't have a mind of my own and there would be no reason to know the truth of what is and isn't constitutional.
    Good luck declaring Social Security unconstitutional on your own then.

    And honestly, just think, SS has been around nearly 70 years, almost as long as both of my parents' age put together. No one has declared it unconstitutional in that time, no one has challenged it's constitutionality in a serious manner. Makes you think, there must be reason, eh?
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The Preamble? what are you a senator that thinks the word A allows them unlimited power?

    That is just dumb. You remind me the time I posted a video on another forum where a senator said the preamble was the reason the healthcare law was constitutional in a town hall meeting and instead of being greeted with anger was greeted with laughter.

    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    The Preamble is part of the Constitution, and is a very rough outline of the extent of the government's powers.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We evolved.
    not all of us, there are still plenty of us who can't get past the phase of our life when we are totally self centered, our infant years...YEAH, I SAID IT, there are a bunch of big whiny babies complaining about not getting as much of the pie as they think they deserve. If that pie was totally of their own making, I could sympathize with them, but nobody makes a fortune without the help of infrastructure paid for by all of us, one way or another.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    The Preamble is part of the Constitution, and is a very rough outline of the extent of the government's powers.
    It doesn't grant powers. I will now laugh at you for trying to defend what you just said.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It doesn't grant powers. I will now laugh at you for trying to defend what you just said.
    It outlines government as a whole. That you think that is false is a clear indictment of your understanding of the government.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh so now you admit some partisanship. Good to know you can ignore reality and then notice reality as if no one will notice what you are doing. Court is good, pure, the rule of law, and now well its just a conservative court. Yes, good show my boy.
    Isn't the current SCOTUS tilted in the conservative direction? If so, it isn't partisan to say they are conservative...
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    It outlines government as a whole. That you think that is false is a clear indictment of your understanding of the government.
    Outlines you say. I wonder what that implies.

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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Outlines you say. I wonder what that implies.
    Two words: Elastic Clause.
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    Re: Should we Eliminate Social Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Two words: Elastic Clause.
    You mean the thing that is still talking about the powers that are listed. You can fail less whenever you wish.
    Last edited by Henrin; 04-19-11 at 01:38 AM.

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