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Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

Are people who want to defund PP anti-women?

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I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
 
I say no. People who want PP defunded believe so not because they are anti-women, but pro-children.
 
Grrr....I hate it when I make an error in the title.
 
Mellie said:
I say no. People who want PP defunded believe so not because they are anti-women, but pro-children.
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Not only are they anti-women, they are also anti-family, in my opinion. Planned Parenthood deals with many issues around woman health.
 
It's not anti-women to want to defund PP. It's because I support womens' rights that I want to see them born. The federal government should defund every organization that provides for abortions. There are other places people can go if they need contraception or crisis pregnancy care.

pbrauer said:
Not only are they anti-women, they are also anti-family, in my opinion. Planned Parenthood deals with many issues around woman health.
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I believe abortions are anti-family as it kills an unborn family member. Contraception ends at conception, and unplanned pregnancy doesn't justify an abortion even if contraception fails. A woman can go other places to receive healthcare. Many things like mammograms and other "services" of PP are not preformed there and merely refer women other places.
 
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No they aren't "anti-women" Im not even sure what that term means, but they may selective in their standards and a little paranoid. By selective i mean the fact that no federal funds go to PP's abortion operations, although a common argument is that while they don't fund it directly they do free up more of PP's funds which potentially, and undoubtably are sometimes, used for abortions. But you could use that same argument for literally ANYTHING, heck lets say there's a female employee at Boeing who wants to get an abortion, the gov't contracts Boeing to make a new plane, Boeing pays the employee, woman gets an abortion!! Its indirect payment but the money ultimately came from the gov't.
 
pbrauer said:
Not only are they anti-women, they are also anti-family, in my opinion. Planned Parenthood deals with many issues around woman health.
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Not so at all. If they only did "women's health issues" and not abortion, I wouldn't care the slightest. You know the problem is the controversial abortion part of PP. Don't pretend that everyone who wants to defund PP wants women to get cervical cancer. That's just stupid.
 
digsbe said:
It's not anti-women to want to defund PP. It's because I support womens' rights that I want to see them born. The federal government should defund every organization that provides for abortions. There are other places people can go if they need contraception or crisis pregnancy care.
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Women who want abortions, pay PP for them, the government doesn't fund the. See the Hyde amendment!
 
I find people amusing who only care about the health of people before they are born. They tend to be the same people who want to cut the health programs for those that have already been born.
 
Mellie said:
I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
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No, it's an outright lie. In fact I'm not sure that everyone who wants to defund it is even pro-life.
They are corrupt-fraudulant and questionable claims to Medicare, Medicaid
Racist- Will take donations and promise to specify the money for black baby abortions.
Break the law by telling teens to lie about age
Break the laws by telling minors to lie about the father of the baby's age.
Telling sex trafficers of minors all the info they need for getting std, bc, abortions etc for their"girls"
Mislead on their website and media by saying that only 3% of their services is for abortions. "such a teeny weeny number"
Though 3% is true, so is the fact that 12% of all of their clients get an abortion and way over ninety% of their pregnant clients get abortions rather opt to keep or opt to adopt.
There's more cases of sleaziness I'm sure. Anyway,
I think women deserve better than what PP has to offer, and others should too.
 
Catawba said:
I find people amusing who only care about the health of people before they are born. They tend to be the same people who want to cut the health programs for those that have already been born.
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I support universal healthcare. However it is wrong to say that those who don't support it don't care about the health of born individuals. That is a fallacious argument.
pbrauer said:
Women who want abortions, pay PP for them, the government doesn't fund the. See the Hyde amendment!
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The government funds PP who uses those funds in other areas. It keeps them operating, and it keeps them able to preform abortions.
 
digsbe said:
The government funds PP who uses those funds in other areas. It keeps them operating, and it keeps them able to preform abortions.
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Does your health insurance company (or corporate umbrella) also provide money for abortions?
 
pbrauer said:
Does your health insurance company (or corporate umbrella) also provide money for abortions?
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Not that I know of. Even so, they pay their premiums for a service. My insurance premiums isn't handed to women to have abortions that don't pay in for their own policy. Regardless, that doesn't mean the government should fund a corrupt organization like PP that does offer abortions.

I believe that the "anti-women" stuff is just rhetoric aimed at justifying hatred from the other side towards those who want to defund PP and are pro-life. In their warped way of thinking people who are against funding PP and abortions want women to die in back alleys or want to oppress womens' rights and want to keep them barefoot and pregnant in some kitchen. In reality, we have our view because we believe abortion is murder, that it's wrong, and that it is the taking of an innocent life. It's a misrepresentation of our views in order to justify hatred for the other side and a sense of self superiority due to the fact that those who want to defund PP just "hate women and are anti-womens' rights."
 
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Wiseone said:
No they aren't "anti-women" Im not even sure what that term means, but they may selective in their standards and a little paranoid. By selective i mean the fact that no federal funds go to PP's abortion operations, although a common argument is that while they don't fund it directly they do free up more of PP's funds which potentially, and undoubtably are sometimes, used for abortions. But you could use that same argument for literally ANYTHING, heck lets say there's a female employee at Boeing who wants to get an abortion, the gov't contracts Boeing to make a new plane, Boeing pays the employee, woman gets an abortion!! Its indirect payment but the money ultimately came from the gov't.
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Or you could compare it to a charity organization that feeds and shelters the homeless in America but also sends money to a terrorist organization.
 
Mellie said:
Not so at all. If they only did "women's health issues" and not abortion, I wouldn't care the slightest. You know the problem is the controversial abortion part of PP. Don't pretend that everyone who wants to defund PP wants women to get cervical cancer. That's just stupid.
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I gather I wasn't the only one frustrated during the "almost shut down government crisis."
I wanted to strangle everyone, including the Republicans in congress and Conservative at Fox.
 
pbrauer said:
Not only are they anti-women, they are also anti-family, in my opinion. Planned Parenthood deals with many issues around woman health.
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Right, because ripping your child's arms and legs off is what every happy nurturing parent would normally do.
 
Mellie said:
I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
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No label you give me could effect the result I desire, so I'm not particularly concerned. If defunding PP makes me "anti-woman" in your eyes, I'm ok with that, because your opinion of me isn't something I cared about in the first place.
 
Barbbtx said:
Or you could compare it to a charity organization that feeds and shelters the homeless in America but also sends money to a terrorist organization.
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Ya except its entirely not like that at all, because unlike your example the money the gov't gives to PP doesn't go towards abortions. Let me give you another example, women wants abortion, gets a tax rebate, gets her abortion anyway, like she would have if she had gotten no rebates, but the rebate "freed up money for it." Tax rebates cause abortions.

Just like PP, they are going to provide abortions anyway, and while I agree the federal funds for other things "free up" funds for abortion services unless you can prove that if their federal funding was cut off they would decrease abortion services before any other you don't have an argument. Or to use your example, if we were sending money to a group which feed homeless and funded terrorists, and we cut off their funding, if they choose to just not feed as many homeless we haven't accomplished anything at all, in fact we've created a worse situation.
 
digsbe said:
It's not anti-women to want to defund PP. It's because I support womens' rights that I want to see them born. The federal government should defund every organization that provides for abortions. There are other places people can go if they need contraception or crisis pregnancy care.



I believe abortions are anti-family as it kills an unborn family member. Contraception ends at conception, and unplanned pregnancy doesn't justify an abortion even if contraception fails. A woman can go other places to receive healthcare. Many things like mammograms and other "services" of PP are not preformed there and merely refer women other places.
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What better way to support a woman's rights then to kill her before she's born?
 
No, but I think they are misguided to exactly what PP does. Yes they provide abortion services, but that is only 3% of their services, and they provide many great services to poor, and under-privileged women.

Also, no tax payer money goes to funding abortions anyway, so I don't see the big fuss.
 
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Wiseone said:
Ya except its entirely not like that at all, because unlike your example the money the gov't gives to PP doesn't go towards abortions. Let me give you another example, women wants abortion, gets a tax rebate, gets her abortion anyway, like she would have if she had gotten no rebates, but the rebate "freed up money for it." Tax rebates cause abortions.
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A tax rebate is money which was already yours, but held interest-free by the government all year because you over paid.

That's different then the government giving you money that you didn't have before.

Wiseone said:
Just like PP, they are going to provide abortions anyway, and while I agree the federal funds for other things "free up" funds for abortion services unless you can prove that if their federal funding was cut off they would decrease abortion services before any other you don't have an argument. Or to use your example, if we were sending money to a group which feed homeless and funded terrorists, and we cut off their funding, if they choose to just not feed as many homeless we haven't accomplished anything at all, in fact we've created a worse situation.
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Good point, I agree, PP is a domestic terrorist group.
 
Your Star said:
No, but I think they are misguided to exactly what PP does. Yes they provide abortion services, but that is only 3% of their services, and they provide many great services to poor, and under-privileged women.
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It wouldn't matter if they only provided one elective abortion. That lone evil wipes away any good they may have don, and they should be shut down. More then just removed funding, they should be closed.
 
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