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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    It isn't even a case of anti family, anti life, anti woman or anything else along those lines. Instead it is an issue about taxes, that is all there is to talk about the funding. The federal government has no constitutional authority to raise taxes for this issue or legislate anything about it.

    Let's end this idiotic debate once and for all, no one is anti life or anti choice, people truly want both there is just a difference in opinion on when life starts. The supreme court must determine when life starts and no abortions should occur after that point (unless the womans life is endangered), and before that point it is completely within an individuals right to make a decision about their body.

    Done, finished, Right wingers you should be satisfied that no life is being taken, and left wingers womans choice is satisfied.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
    No it is not true. Saying that wanting to de-fund PP amounts is equal to being anti-woman amounts to saying wanting to tear down Wal-Mart is anti-poor.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Why do women need a government funded special place to go for healthcare services? (Unless you're hinting that soon no one else will be taking Medicaid and Medicare under Obamacare) Can't all their needs be met through regular healthcare providers?
    Perhaps you are not aware there are millions of Americans that cannot afford today's health care costs. That is the reason the women's health care screenings are so critically important.

    What have I missed out on during my life since I've never once used PP or any kind of "family planning services" for my "reproductive" healthcare?
    Are you poor? If not you could probably afford to go to a doctor's office.

    I've been plenty poor too, but have had my share of pap smears and breast examines.
    Who paid for them?

    Mammograms too, but they aren't provided by PP anyway.
    "Care for Yourself is a program that offers pap tests and pelvic exams, clinical breast exams, breast self-exam training and mammograms to qualified women between the ages of 40 and 64.

    The Iowa Department of Public Health has been awarded funds from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to provide a statewide breast and cervical cancer screening program. The goal is to reduce the number of deaths from breast and cervical cancer by screening to detect cancer early, when it is more treatable."

    FREE Mammograms and Pap Smears - Planned Parenthood - Southeast Iowa

    The sheer number of abortions PP provides is the only thing that sets them apart from other HC providers. If cutting off their funding....
    PP doesn't recieve federal funding for abortions.

    Oh..crap, I don't know why we are even bothering discussing it. It will not happen as long as Obama is in office. Planned Parenthood helped get him elected and he's not about to let them down now, so close to 2012.
    How did PP help get Obama elected?
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
    I believe most aren't (because a lot tend to be women) but some may be.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    From your link:

    Who is eligible?

    Women between the ages of 40 and 64 who:

    Have not had a mammogram or Pap test in the past year
    Are not enrolled in Medicare Part B or Medicaid
    Have no insurance program for these services
    Meet all eligibility requirements and cannot pay the deductible or co-insurance payments
    Have a household income meeting the following guidelines:
    Annual Gross Income of $23,275 with a household of 1
    Annual Gross Income of $31,225 with a household of 2
    Annual Gross Income of $39,175 with a household of 3
    Annual Gross Income of $47,125 with a household of 4
    Annual Gross Income of $55,075 with a household of 5


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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulterkampf View Post
    It isn't even a case of anti family, anti life, anti woman or anything else along those lines. Instead it is an issue about taxes, that is all there is to talk about the funding. The federal government has no constitutional authority to raise taxes for this issue or legislate anything about it.

    Let's end this idiotic debate once and for all, no one is anti life or anti choice, people truly want both there is just a difference in opinion on when life starts. The supreme court must determine when life starts and no abortions should occur after that point (unless the womans life is endangered), and before that point it is completely within an individuals right to make a decision about their body.

    Done, finished, Right wingers you should be satisfied that no life is being taken, and left wingers womans choice is satisfied.
    Well ok. Life begins at conception. There is nothing about a growing human fetus that is any less miraclulous than a grown man. No I think the baby should be born and that we should help the parents in every way they need. LIke free day care and substantial tax help. Education, job trainning. Offer more options besides abortion.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulterkampf View Post
    It isn't even a case of anti family, anti life, anti woman or anything else along those lines. Instead it is an issue about taxes, that is all there is to talk about the funding. The federal government has no constitutional authority to raise taxes for this issue or legislate anything about it.

    Let's end this idiotic debate once and for all, no one is anti life or anti choice, people truly want both there is just a difference in opinion on when life starts. The supreme court must determine when life starts and no abortions should occur after that point (unless the womans life is endangered), and before that point it is completely within an individuals right to make a decision about their body.

    Done, finished, Right wingers you should be satisfied that no life is being taken, and left wingers womans choice is satisfied.
    As a libertarian, you are sending mixed signals. So lets logically ask, what gives government constitutional authority to decide when life starts, if you say they have no right to legislate? How about government has no business in a women's womb or the rights of a child before or after it is born. If government is going to stick their nose up the womb, let Americans be taxed for it.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    I don't think they are anti-woman but they are ignorant of what Planned Parenthood really does. They are so obsessed with abortion that they ignore all the good the organization does. I read this elsewhere but it made sense to me. If you are anti-abortion you should be for universal healthcare. Countries with universal health care have fewer abortions. If women have access to free birth control they are less likely to get pregnant. This is also true of Planned Parenthood. Without the birth control services they provide we are likely to have more unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    I don't think they are anti-woman but they are ignorant of what Planned Parenthood really does. They are so obsessed with abortion that they ignore all the good the organization does. I read this elsewhere but it made sense to me. If you are anti-abortion you should be for universal healthcare. Countries with universal health care have fewer abortions. If women have access to free birth control they are less likely to get pregnant. This is also true of Planned Parenthood. Without the birth control services they provide we are likely to have more unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.
    I agree, however many who say they are pro-life are also against birth control and for that reason they would be against Planned Parenthood. I would go so far as to say these folks are the cause of many pregnancies/abortions as they believe in abstinence-only education.


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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    I don't think they are anti-woman but they are ignorant of what Planned Parenthood really does. They are so obsessed with abortion that they ignore all the good the organization does. I read this elsewhere but it made sense to me. If you are anti-abortion you should be for universal healthcare. Countries with universal health care have fewer abortions. If women have access to free birth control they are less likely to get pregnant. This is also true of Planned Parenthood. Without the birth control services they provide we are likely to have more unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.
    Dear, people who believe abortion is murder are not going to be looking for good things Planned Parenthood does. Maybe if they split services and had a separate agency for birth control services it would help. Every drug store offers birth control.

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