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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's not anti-women to want to defund PP. It's because I support womens' rights that I want to see them born. The federal government should defund every organization that provides for abortions. There are other places people can go if they need contraception or crisis pregnancy care.



    I believe abortions are anti-family as it kills an unborn family member. Contraception ends at conception, and unplanned pregnancy doesn't justify an abortion even if contraception fails. A woman can go other places to receive healthcare. Many things like mammograms and other "services" of PP are not preformed there and merely refer women other places.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    No, but I think they are misguided to exactly what PP does. Yes they provide abortion services, but that is only 3% of their services, and they provide many great services to poor, and under-privileged women.

    Also, no tax payer money goes to funding abortions anyway, so I don't see the big fuss.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ya except its entirely not like that at all, because unlike your example the money the gov't gives to PP doesn't go towards abortions. Let me give you another example, women wants abortion, gets a tax rebate, gets her abortion anyway, like she would have if she had gotten no rebates, but the rebate "freed up money for it." Tax rebates cause abortions.
    A tax rebate is money which was already yours, but held interest-free by the government all year because you over paid.

    That's different then the government giving you money that you didn't have before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Just like PP, they are going to provide abortions anyway, and while I agree the federal funds for other things "free up" funds for abortion services unless you can prove that if their federal funding was cut off they would decrease abortion services before any other you don't have an argument. Or to use your example, if we were sending money to a group which feed homeless and funded terrorists, and we cut off their funding, if they choose to just not feed as many homeless we haven't accomplished anything at all, in fact we've created a worse situation.
    Good point, I agree, PP is a domestic terrorist group.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
    Not necessarily.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, but I think they are misguided to exactly what PP does. Yes they provide abortion services, but that is only 3% of their services, and they provide many great services to poor, and under-privileged women.
    It wouldn't matter if they only provided one elective abortion. That lone evil wipes away any good they may have don, and they should be shut down. More then just removed funding, they should be closed.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Women who want abortions, pay PP for them, the government doesn't fund the. See the Hyde amendment!
    This amendment needs to be made permanent. Is that why we had to specify no federal funds for abortions in DC when everyone thought the Hyde Amendment had taken care of that?
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    Opponents of the amendment, such as the National Abortion Federation and the American Civil Liberties Union, assert that it unfairly targets low-income women,[2] stating the amendment effectively ended the provision of abortions for low-income women across the United States through Medicaid, the federal health insurance program for low-income Americans.[3] As a rider attached to the yearly appropriations bill for Medicaid, it occasioned intense debate in Congress each time that it came up for renewal. The original measure made no exceptions for cases of pregnancies that were the result of rape or incest or that threatened the lives of pregnant woman, provoking an outcry from women's rights advocates. As a result, beginning in 1977 language was added to provide for such circumstances; however, the exact wording has varied from one year to the next, subject to the outcome of Congressional bargaining on the issue.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    This amendment needs to be made permanent. Is that why we had to specify no federal funds for abortions in DC when everyone thought the Hyde Amendment had taken care of that?
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Anyway,I think women deserve better than what PP has to offer, and others should too.
    I have not heard of the GOP proposals to provide something better for women's health services than PP, all I've heard about is their intention to cut funding for woman's health services.

    Do you have a link to this proposal?
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support universal healthcare. However it is wrong to say that those who don't support it don't care about the health of born individuals. That is a fallacious argument.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, but I think they are misguided to exactly what PP does. Yes they provide abortion services, but that is only 3% of their services, and they provide many great services to poor, and under-privileged women.

    Also, no tax payer money goes to funding abortions anyway, so I don't see the big fuss.
    Close to this: They are not anti-women in intent, but they are in practice.
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