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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Daily Caller...ROFL. Sorry Barb, but really, present facts and not editorials from right wing blogs.
    Yes his sources seem a little... biased :-P

    But his question is still unanswered. Regardless of how you feel about women's rights and whether or not PP does a lot of good significant work, is it really something that TAX DOLLARS should fund? Or should it be funded privately? I love what they do. But I hate how they're funded.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Of course not. People who wish to defund Planned Parenthood--a horrible misnomer--are no more anti-woman that those who wish to fund Planned Parenthood with my tax dollars are anti-baby.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?
    Yes, I do.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I said



    Catawa asked
    I stand by,
    As long as Obama's in office PP will continue to get federal funds. It won't matter if we find thousands of born alive aborted babies in their dumpsters. Obama needs them.




    YouTube - Barack Obama Addresses Planned Parenthood

    Planned Parenthood Action Fund Endorses Barack Obama - Planned Parenthood Action Center

    Obama pledged to Planned Parenthood: "I will not yield" to pro-life concerns :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

    Obama Abortion Dodges Blessed by Planned Parenthood - Political Radar
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    So the blogs say PP endorsed Obama, this is how PP got Obama elected? And the independents took heed of this endorsement and voted for Obama rather than McCain?
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Is that "jobs saved" kind of math?
    "PROPOSED CUTS

    The U.S. House recently voted to eliminate the Title X (10) Family Planning Program, which was enacted in 1970 by Republican President Richard Nixon. The program — the only one of its kind, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services — ensures that low-income families have access to contraceptive services, including supplies and information, as well as related preventive services, such as breast, testicular and cervical cancer exams.

    “We’re very concerned about the federal activity going on in Congress right now to eliminate Title X,” Gonzales said. “We’ve got 10 (centers) that get Title X funding. So eliminating it would drastically affect us down here.”

    “The cuts would be very devastating because right then and there, 6,000 women would not be able to get access to health care — basic, life-saving screenings for cancer, pap smears, breast exams, birth control — all of this preventive care, which saves the taxpayers money,” Gonzales said.

    But eliminating the program is not the only attempt by the federal government to debunk the association, the CEO added. The Pence Amendment, which also was passed by the Republican-dominated House, seeks to strip Planned Parenthood of any federal funding by declassifying it as a Medicaid provider, he said. Congress has until April 8 to take action on both measures.

    At the state level, legislators are debating whether to reauthorize a five-year program slated to end Dec. 31. The Texas Medicaid Women’s Health Program makes it possible for low-income women, like Henry, to receive a physical exam, Pap smear and a 12-month supply of birth control for as little as $30 to no cost, Gonzales said. Nearly 8,000 women in the county receive those benefits.

    “I don’t have $150 or however much the birth control shot is, plus the doctor’s visit,” Henry said. “It’s expensive.”



    FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY

    Proponents of the proposed cuts argue eliminating the services would help reduce the deficit, but Gonzales believes otherwise.

    The Texas Medicaid Women’s Health Program, which increased services offered to low-income women in Hidalgo County by 40 percent since 2007, saves the state $10 for every $1 invested, Gonzales said.

    In 2008, he added, it helped save $20 million for Texas — the state with the highest number of uninsured women in the country — by cutting down on costs associated with unwanted pregnancies and by diagnosing problems before they became more advanced and expensive to treat.

    It’s also less expensive to prevent a pregnancy than to pay for so-called Medicaid babies, Gonzales said.

    It takes about $240 to provide a woman with preventive family planning services (birth control) for one year, according to the Texas Health and Human Services Commission.

    Meanwhile, it costs more than $16,000 per woman for the delivery and first year’s care of the infant for a pregnancy covered by Medicaid — in Texas, more than half the births are covered by the public insurance program.

    “It really would add to the deficit rather than reduce the deficit,” Gonzales said. “So to eliminate a program that saves money to the taxpayers, I don’t think is being responsible.”

    Because some Planned Parenthood affiliates provide abortion services, Gonzales said, some advocates wish to see the national organization weakened — through funding cuts — as a way to decrease the number of abortions.

    But eliminating access to birth control would only do the opposite, he argued.

    The Planned Parenthood Association of Hidalgo County does not offer any abortion services, he said. And by law, funding provided by the state and federal governments cannot be used to fund abortion services.

    “It’s politics, I think,” Gonzales said. “And I think they’re targeting women … because it makes no sense to go after programs that save taxpayers money.”

    Planned Parenthood: Funding cuts would have major impact on local, low-income women The Monitor
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The rule of law? They are people thats job is uphold the rule of law but they are partisan hacks that have proven they have no ability to read English let alone the ability to uphold the rule of law. I don't respect them and their ability to do their job.
    I have no interest in the radical fringe that does not believe in the rule of law. Continue on in your make believe world.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I have no interest in the radical fringe that does not believe in the rule of law. Continue on in your make believe world.
    I believe in the rule of law just fine. You believe the supreme court is never wrong when frankly they are partisan hacks. Continue to believe otherwise if you wish.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    No matter how you feel about womens rights, do you really feel right about funding PP with tax dollars?
    Of course, it saves me money and makes our country stronger.
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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Of course, it saves me money and makes our country stronger.
    I like how you won't respond to what I said to this line of nonsense.

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    Re: Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

    I keep on hearing some mis-information in some of the posts about PP..
    Like 3% of PP Business is Abortions... Well This is not actually correct..
    Yes 3% Medical abortions are performed in 2nd and 3rd trimester.
    A majority of their abortion business is in 1st trimester using Drugs like RU-486 (mifepristone/prostaglandin) or prostaglandin to cause the fetus to naturally abort. this procedure is funded by the government and is allowed in the hyde amendment.
    this brings abortions up to about 19% of their business. Now they do not provide Mammograms but they do give you referrals to go to mammogram centers. Planned Parenthood does do shady things to get procedure paid for by the feds, I know this because my daughter works for the PP center in Virginia.
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