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Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

Are people who want to defund PP anti-women?

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theplaydrive said:
Your source is spinning the truth to create a negative story.

Here is PP's webpage that they refer to:

FREE Mammograms and Pap Smears - Planned Parenthood - Southeast Iowa

PP makes it clear that their only role is in helping people get in contact with medical providers who are a part of the program. This isn't controversial, corrupt or questionable at all.
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I think the purpose of the article was to explain that it's much easier to get the free mammograms if you skip going through PP altogether.
PP slows down the process.

Pajamas Media » Planned Parenthood: Limiting Access to Mammograms

Media Matters cited the following as “proof” that Planned Parenthood is transparent about increasing access:
If you have questions or concerns about breast cancer, we are here to help. A staff member at your local Planned Parenthood health center can discuss breast cancer, breast exams, and breast health with you and help you find the services you need
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But once again, Planned Parenthood directs women to contact Planned Parenthood. This is a sales pitch, not an effort to increase access.
It is akin to Planned Parenthood advertising that they have the number for the fire department … but you need to call Planned Parenthood to get it. Would anyone disagree that doing this would imperil people, and can not be defined as increasing “access”?
Google “free mammograms in Iowa” and Planned Parenthood tops the search list over Mercy Medical Center, a facility that actually offers mammograms and even refers potential candidates for free mammograms to the state program’s website so they can get informed without a consultation
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theplaydrive said:
1. :roll:
2. We don't have a problem with people who deliver children, we have a problem with people who shove Christianity and morality into pregnant women's faces in order to coerce them and make them feel guilty for using their own minds to make a decision.
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See? Demonizing people for trying to save babies.
 
Barbbtx said:
I think the purpose of the article was to explain that it's much easier to get the free mammograms if you skip going through PP altogether.
PP slows down the process.

Pajamas Media » Planned Parenthood: Limiting Access to Mammograms
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One could also argue that it's easier to get a job by going directly to the employer, but that doesn't stop people from going to intermediaries like temp agencies, and the like. You highlighted the article because you were trying to accuse PP of falsely claiming that it gives out free mammograms. Stop the b.s. please.
 
Catawba said:
So if one party helps address women's unmet health issues and the greatful women support the party that improved their health, that is bad in your eyes?
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The subject was defunding PP. It will never happen as long as Obama has the veto pen.
You may think he is a president concerned with womens health. Others think of him as the most pro-abortion president ever.
Even up to the point he voted to refuse any medical intervention to born alive babies from abortions.
 
Barbbtx said:
See? Demonizing people for trying to save babies.
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If people were criticizing them for "trying to save babies" then they would criticize every hospital in the country and the people criticizing them wouldn't have children of their own. Instead, they target holier-than-thou religious people who try to coerce young women into following their own subjective morality. If you want to "save babies", deliver them, don't insult people by spewing Christian bull**** in their faces.
 
theplaydrive said:
One could also argue that it's easier to get a job by going directly to the employer, but that doesn't stop people from going to intermediaries like temp agencies, and the like. You highlighted the article because you were trying to accuse PP of falsely claiming that it gives out free mammograms. Stop the b.s. please.
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I did no such thing.
You stop it.
Making PP out to be, the be all and end all, to women's health care, is BS and you are the one spewing it.
 
Very few supporters of defunding Planned Parenthood intend to harm women's interests; i.e., be “anti-woman;” but, the act of defunding Planned Parenthood has the affect of harming their interests by depriving women across the country of ready accessibility to the health services they need.

The act of defunding Planned Parenthood is anti-woman.
 
Barbbtx said:
I did no such thing.
You stop it.
Making PP out to be, the be all and end all, to women's health care, is BS and you are the one spewing it.
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Except I've never made it out to be that. I just called you out for post BS spin articles that twist information to make a positive negative.
 
Barbbtx said:
The subject was defunding PP.
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Right, I am opposed to defunding PP because I am pro-health and pro-reductions in health care costs.

"Every year, Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses carry out nearly one million lifesaving screenings for cervical cancer and 830,000 breast exams, and its health centers also provide contraception to nearly 2.5 million patients and nearly four million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

Planned Parenthood is also an essential health care provider. For six in 10 women who receive medical care from doctors and nurses at family planning health centers like those run by Planned Parenthood, these centers are their main source of health care. Combined, these two extreme proposals would completely undermine millions of women’s access to basic primary and preventive health care, such as lifesaving cancer screenings, contraception, HIV testing and counseling, STI testing and treatment, and annual exams."
Planned Parenthood defunding bill passes House | Glass City Jungle
 
theplaydrive said:
If people were criticizing them for "trying to save babies" then they would criticize every hospital in the country and the people criticizing them wouldn't have children of their own. Instead, they target holier-than-thou religious people who try to coerce young women into following their own subjective morality. If you want to "save babies", deliver them, don't insult people by spewing Christian bull**** in their faces.
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Better to not give them any hope. I see....
just let them go to PP and get the damn abortion and to hell will the life that is growing inside her. At least the people at PP won't mention the word God, or faith, or hope, or charity.
Yea, I can see how evil those CPC's are, at least the ones who are funded by churches.
Keep them all in court wasting money that would have been spent helping mothers and babies.
 
Chappy said:
Very few supporters of defunding Planned Parenthood intend to harm women's interests; i.e., be “anti-woman;” but, the act of defunding Planned Parenthood has the affect of harming their interests by depriving women across the country of ready accessibility to the health services they need.

The act of defunding Planned Parenthood is anti-woman.
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What makes you think defunding automatically means they will close down?
 
Barbbtx said:
What makes you think defunding automatically means they will close down?
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You think we should try the same defunding experiment with the funding for the "war on terror", or the military? It doesn't automatically mean they will close down afterall. :sun
 
Chappy said:
Without funding fewer women can be served.
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They can go somewhere else. We shouldn't fund institutions that provide abortions. If anything, we could relocate those funds to another organization or create a new organization that specializes in meeting women's health needs that does not provide for abortions.
 
Chappy said:
Without funding fewer women can be served.
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With all the supporters of planned parenthood, liberals, wealthy people, the hollywood elite, they could maybe increase their donations and ratchet up their fund raisers. They just had a big one not long ago. Maybe they can make it an annual thing.
Making up one third of their funding is a lot. However, if it's so important I don't see why it can't be done. Liberals are so intelligent and all that, can't they figure out a way?
 
digsbe said:
They can go somewhere else. We shouldn't fund institutions that provide abortions. If anything, we could relocate those funds to another organization or create a new organization that specializes in meeting women's health needs that does not provide for abortions.
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And, yet, Republicans didn't offer any of those alternatives. More important, women's full health services ultimately always must include abortion — it's a tragic but sometimes inescapable part of having a uterus. The goal should not in be eliminating all abortions but in making it as rare as humanly possible through education and prevention of unwanted pregnancies — precisely what Planned Parenthood is all about.
 
Barbbtx said:
With all the supporters of planned parenthood, liberals, wealthy people, the hollywood elite, they could maybe increase their donations and ratchet up their fund raisers. They just had a big one not long ago. Maybe they can make it an annual thing.
Making up one third of their funding is a lot. However, if it's so important I don't see why it can't be done. Liberals are so intelligent and all that, can't they figure out a way?
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Presumably wealthy pro-choice Americans could alter their gifting priorities to make up the difference but of course their other charitable causes, some of which you may support, would suffer the reduction.

More important the federal government in funding these programs is acting to “provide for the … general Welfare of the United States.” That an contracting organization provides other legal services should not be a limiting issue.
 
Barbbtx said:
Better to not give them any hope. I see....
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Any hope?? We're talking about women who are capable of making their own decisions. They don't need your evangelizing help.

just let them go to PP and get the damn abortion and to hell will the life that is growing inside her.
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Like I said, women can make their own decisions.

At least the people at PP won't mention the word God, or faith, or hope, or charity.
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Too bad that 72% of women who have abortions have a religious affiliation. They already know about God.
An Overview of Abortion in the United States

Yea, I can see how evil those CPC's are, at least the ones who are funded by churches.

Keep them all in court wasting money that would have been spent helping mothers and babies.
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Let me give you a hint: Your superior attitude does not match your obvious ignorance and small mindedness.
 
Chappy said:
Presumably wealthy pro-choice Americans could alter their gifting priorities to make up the difference but of course their other charitable causes, some of which you may support, would suffer the reduction.

More important the federal government in funding these programs is acting to “provide for the … general Welfare of the United States.” That an contracting organization provides other legal services should not be a limiting issue.
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Sorry, I do not believe that's what that clause means. :)

There are many people who don't donate to federally funded non profits. They don't think it's necessary. Defund them and maybe the donations will come flooding in. Who knows.
 
digsbe said:
They can go somewhere else. We shouldn't fund institutions that provide abortions. If anything, we could relocate those funds to another organization or create a new organization that specializes in meeting women's health needs that does not provide for abortions.
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Throwing off our responsibility is not the answer. We don't provide funding for abortions, and abortions are legal.
 
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Barbbtx said:
With all the supporters of planned parenthood, liberals, wealthy people, the hollywood elite, they could maybe increase their donations and ratchet up their fund raisers. They just had a big one not long ago. Maybe they can make it an annual thing.
Making up one third of their funding is a lot. However, if it's so important I don't see why it can't be done. Liberals are so intelligent and all that, can't they figure out a way?
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We have figured out a way, we follow the intent of the Constitution to promote the general welfare of the people. If this interfere's with more tax breaks for the wealthy, perhaps they should start a fundraiser and invite all the people that feel sorry for them.
 
theplaydrive said:
Any hope?? We're talking about women who are capable of making their own decisions. They don't need your evangelizing help.


Like I said, women can make their own decisions.
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What happen to the small government claim they like to spout about?
 
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