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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    A murder is killing of a human, a baby is a human after its first minutes after conception.

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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    The opponents of abortion are "pro-life", but to call pro-abortion movement as "pro-choice" is not true and misleading because abortion is a murder, the womans have the right to know that in reality the supporters of abortions are "anti-life",but not fine, nice, fluffy-bunny and politically correct "pro-choice". Do you agree with, please vote.
    No, it doesn't need to be renamed. The terms "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are aimed only at the abortion topic; not in general.
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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Incorrect.
    A conceived zygote is human. It's human cells, human DNA, and human embryologic development. It belongs to the human species. If not, what species are we before we are born? Do we evolve into humans in the womb? Human gametes fuse to make a human zygote.
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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Incorrect.
    Correct.

    Proof:

    Faye Wattleton, the longest reigning president of the largest abortion provider in the world – Planned Parenthood – argued as far back as 1997 that everyone already knows that abortion kills. She proclaims the following in an interview with Ms. Magazine:

    I think we have deluded ourselves into believing that people don't know that abortion is killing. So any pretense that abortion is not killing is a signal of our ambivalence, a signal that we cannot say yes, it kills a fetus.1

    Naomi Wolf, a prominent feminist author and abortion supporter, makes a similar concession when she writes:

    Clinging to a rhetoric about abortion in which there is no life and no death, we entangle our beliefs in a series of self-delusions, fibs and evasions. And we risk becoming precisely what our critics charge us with being: callous, selfish and casually destructive men and women who share a cheapened view of human life...we need to contextualize the fight to defend abortion rights within a moral framework that admits that the death of a fetus is a real death.2

    David Boonin, in his book, A Defense of Abortion, makes this startling admission:

    In the top drawer of my desk, I keep [a picture of my son]. This picture was taken on September 7, 1993, 24 weeks before he was born. The sonogram image is murky, but it reveals clear enough a small head tilted back slightly, and an arm raised up and bent, with the hand pointing back toward the face and the thumb extended out toward the mouth. There is no doubt in my mind that this picture, too, shows [my son] at a very early stage in his physical development. And there is no question that the position I defend in this book entails that it would have been morally permissible to end his life at this point.3

    The Case Against Abortion: Medical Testimony
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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    A conceived zygote is human. It's human cells, human DNA, and human embryologic development. It belongs to the human species. If not, what species are we before we are born? Do we evolve into humans in the womb? Human gametes fuse to make a human zygote.
    human, yes. a person, no.

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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    human, yes. a person, no.
    I believe that they are a person. Others may define what personhood is for themselves, but I think its wrong to kill a human life because someone believes it isn't a person. We did the same thing with slavery and that was wrong as well.
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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I believe that they are a person. Others may define what personhood is for themselves, but I think its wrong to kill a human life because someone believes it isn't a person. We did the same thing with slavery and that was wrong as well.
    it's "human life" NOT a human life. i don't argue that once a fetus reaches viability it's a life, but a zygote is not A human life, it has the potential to become a human life.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's "human life" NOT a human life. i don't argue that once a fetus reaches viability it's a life, but a zygote is not A human life, it has the potential to become a human life.
    Science says otherwise. Conditions of the person are not a measure if its a person. That my friend is a fact

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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I have no problem with this, but pro-choicers do.
    Mostly because some pro-choicers (like myself) are Anti-Abortion, but still believe that it should be legal for various reasons.

    It's the same way people who are for legalizing pot are "pro-legalization" as opposed to "pro-pot" because some of them don't really like pot, just understand why it is economically valid to legalize it.
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    Re: Should be "pro-choice" be renamed to "anti-life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Mostly because some pro-choicers (like myself) are Anti-Abortion, but still believe that it should be legal for various reasons.

    It's the same people who are for legalizing pot are "pro-legalization" as opposed to "pro-pot" because some of them don't really like pot, just understand why it is economically valid to legalize it.
    You guys do know the issues aren't the same right? One isn't a balance of rights the other is, making the conclusion on what your stance would be totally different.

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