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    Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Since there are a few threads about pride in one's country popular today, I figured I would ask this basic question. There are certain qualities that generally fall under the heading of being a good citizen, at least according to most people such as:

    1. Legal compliance
    2. Be a moral person (don't seek to take advantage of people, no stealing, no killing, etc)
    3. Be an active member of something that betters the community (like a church or charity)
    4. Civic obligations such as paying taxes, jury duty, the draft, etc
    5. Holding a job
    6. (other things, the rest are just examples)

    The question is, should pride in one's country be on this sort of list?

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    No, you can be ashamed at times. Countries take licks, make mistakes, and fall down sometimes. It's fine to feel wrong, it doesn't mean you're any less of a citizen.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    No, you can be ashamed at times. Countries take licks, make mistakes, and fall down sometimes. It's fine to feel wrong, it doesn't mean you're any less of a citizen.
    Citizenship is a legal status and doesn't address the thrust of the question. The question is whether one is a good citizen. Good, of course, is fully a subjective term, so it depends on your point of view.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    IMO being a good citizen means not breaking the law and paying your debts for society. (taxes etc.)

    The rest is more of being a good person, and that's quite the relative term there.
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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    I tend to believe so; i don't think someone could be, let's say instead, an awesome citizen if they didn't have pride for their own country. Having pride for your country does not mean you agree with everything that goes on in it, but you respect the system and it's people, and that does make you a good citizen.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    You don't have to be proud of the country in every circumstance to be a good citizen. However if you think America sucks in general and want to fundamentally transform it, you can't be a good citizen here. Be one elsewhere please.
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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    You don't have to be proud of the country in every circumstance to be a good citizen. However if you think America sucks in general and want to fundamentally transform it, you can't be a good citizen here. Be one elsewhere please.
    A few questions.
    1. What if a person is basically neutral towards their nation or perhaps all nations? (neutral instead of thinking its great or it sucks)
    2. What is it about not feeling proud of your nation or thinking it sucks that prevents one from being a good citizen?

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    I tend to think of them as two different issues. I believe I am a good citizen, based on what everyone seems to be including as characteristics of such. I am also proud of my country. The fact I am less proud of it at times (I am NEVER not proud, mind you) doesn't negate the things about me I feel make me a good citizen.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    If you can't find any reason to take pride in this country (since this is the one I'm a citizen of) then you just don't want to and would clearly rather focus (or manufacture) the negative.

    This'll be an interesting poll. I have a feeling it'll pretty much fall along party lines.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    IMO being a good citizen means not breaking the law and paying your debts for society. (taxes etc.)

    The rest is more of being a good person, and that's quite the relative term there.
    What if that same citizen who obeys the laws, pays his taxes, gives to charities etc, goes out of his way to bad mouth the very country that made those things possible? If he is burning the Flag on his day off from being a good citizen, is he really a good citizen?
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