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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    What if that same citizen who obeys the laws, pays his taxes, gives to charities etc, goes out of his way to bad mouth the very country that made those things possible? If he is burning the Flag on his day off from being a good citizen, is he really a good citizen?
    Thats the question I am asking, is he?

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Very, very good question.

    Someone once said "patriotism is supporting your country always, and your government when it deserves it".

    I love my home country of south africa, my half county of Britain, and my adopted country of Canada, but it does not always mean that i support the laws of the land, agree with my government nor support those government actions that are sometimes taken...

    I think it is always important to note, that anything created my humans is imperfect... Especially nations, i am a proud South African... But i also note, the Wrongs of the past, the harm that fellow citizen did to fellow citizen, and what the apartheid government was guilty of, I do not omit these, i do not deny these... But the fact that we overcame them, the fact that we grew as a nation despite our hardships makes me proud.... But i can also understand those who are not proud because of these...

    It is my belief that no, you do not have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen, you treat your follow man with respect, you fulfill the obligations that YOU chose to subscribe to... And you do your best to fulfill the laws of the land (unless the laws are unjust, which is sometimes in the eye of the beholder, i mean a person in vancouver can feel that Marijuana laws are unjust, and he should protest, and a person on syria feels that unwarranted imprisonment is unjust and should be protested).

    All in all, be good to your fellow man, don't murder or steal... And you will have done the best you can to be a good citizen.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    A few questions.
    1. What if a person is basically neutral towards their nation or perhaps all nations? (neutral instead of thinking its great or it sucks)
    2. What is it about not feeling proud of your nation or thinking it sucks that prevents one from being a good citizen?
    In my opinion, you would be neutral, not good or bad.
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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Thats the question I am asking, is he?
    No

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    In my opinion, you would be neutral, not good or bad.
    Like Switzerland.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Michelle Obama is proud of her country for the first time in her adult. I have been proud of my country my entire life.
    When America is strong the world is calm, When America is weak tyrants and terrorist slaughter the meek. ~ SgtRock

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    No.. Nationalism and Patriotism 2 very different things.
    The "whole my country right or wrong" mentality is stupid and idiotic.
    Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism. I will live by that till my dying day.

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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No.. Nationalism and Patriotism 2 very different things.
    The "whole my country right or wrong" mentality is stupid and idiotic.
    So is the "my country is always wrong" refrain.
    Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism. I will live by that till my dying day.
    Unless the dissent comes from the TEA party, then it's just violent/racist rhetoric we need to be concerned about.
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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    I think having a certain amount of pride in your country or love for it is a part of good citizenship. Now that doesn't mean you have to be a blind cheerleader for everything your nation does. You can be disappointed or even disgusted by your country's actions and I think a truly good citizen would protest or otherwise try to change those objectionable actions. But there should still be some fundemental love or pride in your nation - in it's ideals, what it stands for, what it strives to be even if it often falls short.
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    Re: Do you have to be proud of your country to be a good citizen?

    No, you don't need to have pride to be a good citizen. Being a good citizen, from my perspective, means contributing to society and helping it to become better than it is. There are many people with pride in their country who are horrible citizens according to this definition.

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