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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I agree with you.

    Anyone who does not want to be part of Social Security can withdraw from it at any time. There is no Berlin Wall confining you here.
    LOL-its like saying the Income tax is "voluntary"



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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You should continue to push that line of reasoning and so should your party. Trumpet it from the highest peaks and make it the centerpiece of the 2012 elections. tell the American people there is no contract for Social Security despite they having paid into it and fulfilled their end of hte bargain for their entire working lives.

    I would love to see that.

    It has become part of the American social contract between a citizen and their government.
    And that is probably the only thing that the Democrat Party thanks God for.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL-its like saying the Income tax is "voluntary"
    Every day you live here is voluntary.
    every day you know the laws and the rules and the programs and you stay here just the same is voluntary.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Every day you live here is voluntary.
    every day you know the laws and the rules and the programs and you stay here just the same is voluntary.
    that is as silly as we have come to expect.



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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is as silly as we have come to expect.
    SILLY!!!!!???????

    You are not here voluntarily?!?!?!?! Quick, try and post where you are being held against your will so we can dispatch some police to try and liberate you so you can depart for some foreign nation ASAP.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    SILLY!!!!!???????

    You are not here voluntarily?!?!?!?! Quick, try and post where you are being held against your will so we can dispatch some police to try and liberate you so you can depart for some foreign nation ASAP.
    more diversions. tell us Haymarket do you believe that american citizens should have the right to stop paying into the social security system

    I do and I believe no one should be forced to pay anything into that ponzi scheme

    how about you?



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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    You live here of your own free will.

    You claim to be highly educated so you should know better than most about the laws and policies of our nation. You rail against all sorts of things about America and its government , things that you ourtirght hate and loathe and have no trouble saying so.

    But still you stay.

    And that applies to anyone who does not want to pay into Social Security or any other American program. That is how you get out of it. Either that, or stop working. That also works.

    So now its on you.

    There is no Berlin Wall confining you. You are here of your own free will and each day you participate in this nation of your own free will. You can withdraw that participation at any time you want to. Its all up to you.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You should continue to push that line of reasoning and so should your party. Trumpet it from the highest peaks and make it the centerpiece of the 2012 elections. tell the American people there is no contract for Social Security despite they having paid into it and fulfilled their end of hte bargain for their entire working lives.

    I would love to see that.
    and that, ladies and gentlemen, is the state of todays politics. Democrats are hoping that the GOP has the courage to tell the American people the painful truth so that they can demogogue it for short term political gain, and screw the long term.

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    I think it is a good idea. I would want to know more details, but it looks like a reasonable plan to help keep it viable.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and that, ladies and gentlemen, is the state of todays politics. Democrats are hoping that the GOP has the courage to tell the American people the painful truth so that they can demogogue it for short term political gain, and screw the long term.
    If the GOP truly believes it, then they should follow up on it. They have a moral obligation to do so and a patriotic obligation as well. To do otherwise would be an act of craven political cowardice.
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