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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Simple solution to the problem, if there is actually a problem.
    1.....Change the SS "threshold" from what it is now and tax the wealthy....this will, of course be rejected by the wealthy conservatives.
    2.....Up the retirement age to 67....this will be rejected by the wealthy liberals.
    3.....Compromise, up the age to 66 and up the "pay in" threshold to one million....cutting the billionaires a break.
    4.....Increase the benefits by at least $100 monthly to cover some of the inflation that has occured recently(energy and related).
    5......The wealthy already pay taxes(indirectly) on their benefits, why change this ?

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    winner winner chicken dinner.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Simple solution to the problem, if there is actually a problem.
    1.....Change the SS "threshold" from what it is now and tax the wealthy....this will, of course be rejected by the wealthy conservatives.
    We do tax the wealthy.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    We do tax the wealthy.
    That's true, X Factor, but we haven't totally crushed them yet and President Obama won't be happy until all of the wealthy, not associated with the federal government, are totally destroyed. it's what he and other socialists call "social justice".

    I voted to have means testing but that's because I didn't have to pay into Social Security and I don't get Social Security. Instead of Social Security, I had a 401k and I'm happy.
    Last edited by Patrickt; 04-15-11 at 11:18 AM.

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    I am going to try and utilize the arguments that we constantly hear from many hear in a slightly different way.

    Means testing would punish and penalize productive people in society and reward the least productive. That time honored conservative principal applies to social security.

    That is why I voted NO.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    so you're in favor of a flat tax?
    !zing!

    Good one Will. But, uh, well... you know I'm not.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Means testing for Social Security benefits came up in a discussion Stillballin' and I were having. Personally, I don't support it. Thinking it would make a good poll question, I Googled the term to find a good article that would describe what in entails. Lo and behold, I found this article where three Republican senators are proposing this very thing.



    *First Read - GOP senators: Raise retirement age, 'means test' Social Security

    So, what do you think? Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?
    I say no.For the simple fact everyone pays into this with the intention that you will get this back and the more someone makes the more money they pay into it.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    I had to say "no", simple because I want to opt out of social security. I doubt I'm going to get anything out of it already since it's used as a slush fund account by the government. Second, why steal people's money by testing them and saying, "oh I'm sorry, you make too much money and your money, you know, that you already paid in for the past 45 years... yeah, we're keeping it all because you don't need it". Means testing is just a nice way of saying, we're going to **** you dry, steal the money you paid in for decades, and give it to someone else who WE (the gubmint) deem needs it more. Nah. Just let me opt out.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. But I'd like to see some changes in it.

    • Raise the retirement age by six months.
    • Take off the upper cap on withholding and cap maximum payouts. Right now, SS is withheld on somewhere around the first $100,000. Take off that cap (or raise it to some much higher number...taxed at a somewhat lower rate)...but don't pay out any larger benefit than the current approximately $29,000/year. In other words, those who are earning less than $100,000 will finance their own benefit -- and those who are making more than $100K will finance their own and anteing into the kitty to help finance others. (This would be a compromise to those who want to make SS benefits subject to a means test.)
    • Make SS benefits fully taxable depending on assets as well as income.
    I agree! I also think I alone should get $100,000 and retire at 50.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

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