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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You need a law degree to post here and give your opinion?!?!?!?!?!?

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

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    that you spend so much time trying to convince yourself that I am wrong establishes that I am right

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    To some degree. If they are really about to take sandwiches out of the mouths of disabled people I would say whatever it takes. Or poor old people.

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You need a law degree to post here and give your opinion?!?!?!?!?!?

    There goes the neighborhood.

    Everyday you stay here you do so of your own free will. Is there someone who is keeping you prisoner? Is there a place where are you being held in American against your will? There is no Berlin wall here and you can leave at any time.
    So, basically, you keep making an "America, love or leave it" type argument. I thought liberals hated that, and that "dissent is the greatest form of patriotism", blah, blah.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So, basically, you keep making an "America, love or leave it" type argument. I thought liberals hated that, and that "dissent is the greatest form of patriotism", blah, blah.
    If those targeted for having more and more of their wealth taken by greedy dem politicians did leave the dem pawns would riot as the public teat ran dry



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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If those targeted for having more and more of their wealth taken by greedy dem politicians did leave the dem pawns would riot as the public teat ran dry
    Turtle, respectfully you have been brainwashed by the rich same as many americans....Corporations pay SQUAT for taxs most are just like GE pay nothing or very little. The rich do not pay 35% if they and the corps paid a straight 35% the treasury would be brimming with cash.
    My cousin is in the top tax bracket and has been for decades right from his mouth he has never paid a nickle over 10% and many years less.....I PAY 15%. This is all a conjob by the rich...the middle class carry most of the freight in this country
    There are so many ways to cut this deficit and cut it fast without attacking middle class america but that is NOT the goal of the teaparty...theyre concern is not america as a whole their concern is the rich not paying any taxs
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Turtle, respectfully you have been brainwashed by the rich same as many americans....Corporations pay SQUAT for taxs most are just like GE pay nothing or very little. The rich do not pay 35% if they and the corps paid a straight 35% the treasury would be brimming with cash.
    My cousin is in the top tax bracket and has been for decades right from his mouth he has never paid a nickle over 10% and many years less.....I PAY 15%. This is all a conjob by the rich...the middle class carry most of the freight in this country
    There are so many ways to cut this deficit and cut it fast without attacking middle class america but that is NOT the goal of the teaparty...theyre concern is not america as a whole their concern is the rich not paying any taxs
    You make a lot of empirical statements with absolutely no supporting evidence. The TEA party is mostly middle class, btw.
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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    No I do not support means testing for Social Security. Unlike other social programs (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps etc) Social Security is tied directly to personal contributions and accounted for on that basis. This is not a program designed to provide aid to the needy, it is designed as a forced savings plan to supplement your income at retirement.

    I would instead support an option for a portion of the individual's contributions to be directed toward selected investment options at the contributors direction. I could also support removing the cap on contributions (ie not cut off at $100K (I think that is the level) for a minimum on the employers portion, if not both employer and employee

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    No I do not support means testing for Social Security. Unlike other social programs (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps etc) Social Security is tied directly to personal contributions and accounted for on that basis. This is not a program designed to provide aid to the needy, it is designed as a forced savings plan to supplement your income at retirement.

    I would instead support an option for a portion of the individual's contributions to be directed toward selected investment options at the contributors direction. I could also support removing the cap on contributions (ie not cut off at $100K (I think that is the level) for a minimum on the employers portion, if not both employer and employee
    The teaparty does not want to fix social security and medicare....ultimately their goal is to get rid of it entirely.

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    Re: Would you support means testing for Social Security Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Turtle, respectfully you have been brainwashed by the rich same as many americans....Corporations pay SQUAT for taxs most are just like GE pay nothing or very little. The rich do not pay 35% if they and the corps paid a straight 35% the treasury would be brimming with cash.
    My cousin is in the top tax bracket and has been for decades right from his mouth he has never paid a nickle over 10% and many years less.....I PAY 15%. This is all a conjob by the rich...the middle class carry most of the freight in this country
    There are so many ways to cut this deficit and cut it fast without attacking middle class america but that is NOT the goal of the teaparty...theyre concern is not america as a whole their concern is the rich not paying any taxs

    I love it when people who aren't paying top rates and don't own corporations try to extrapolate their own lack of knowledge to me

    your rants about GE are wrong-here is a post from Old Reliable that might set you straight



    Quote Originally Posted by oldreliable67 View Post
    You can read about GE's taxes here.

    Read the cite for the details, but GE's 2010 tax situation was impacted by:

    1. Significant losses at GE Capital

    2. Resolution of prior year's tax disputes with the IRs

    3. GE paid almost $2.7 billion in cash taxes in 2010 on a consolidated basis (almost 19% of pretax income from continuing operations).


    you only pay 15%? LOL

    and you are lying about the middle class carrying most of the freight

    the top one percent paid 40% of the FIT and almost all the death tax
    the top 5% pay more federal income taxes and death taxes than the rest of the country combined



    the rich pay too many taxes and the evil of that is not merely unfairness but by them paying too much too many people have no interest in holding down spending because the rich subsidize them. The rich are forced to give -through the political process where ten slackers can out vote one productive taxpayer-the masses a credit card that the rich have to pay the bills on

    if we want to get rid of the deficit we have to do more than raise revenues-which the rich cannot and will not do on their own. we have to stop politicians winning elections by spending spending spending. that works now because most voters don't think they will have to pay for that spending due to the progressive income tax



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