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    World government

    Please, feel free to discuss anything related to the idea of world government.

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    Re: World government

    I am a proponent of world government.

    I am what I would call a "Humanist" or "Globalist".

    It is my belief that eventually humanity must unite on this Earth or we will fail and die out as a species.

    How to achieve planetary government?

    Well it is my belief that it will take time, ALOT of time. The nations of the Earth must reach a relative equal status in order to be able to unite into a world federal government.

    Now if you're some American "AMERICA USA #1 don't take my soveriegnty away" person then don't bother discussing this subject with me, your emotions on the subject are irrelevent.

    Soveriegnty will be a finicky subject at the opening stages of World Government. But it is my belief when I say the Earth will reach an equal status, that technology and the creation of unlimited electrical production will eliminate most of our needs and allow us to pursue our wants. But that's another story all together.

    The structure would essentially make countries "Provinces" or "states" under a planetary government who's mandate it would be to provide peace and security in the world. Meaning that if there's a problem in Ivory Coast, then a planetary detachment would be sent to sort it out.

    But that leads me to my next point. To actually be part of what I have coined as the "World Union" you would have to meet a set of criteria. Habeous corpous, democratic institutions, the allowance of free and fair elections and so on and so forth... those would be the conditions of entry.

    And it is my belief that with all these nations forming together into a United Coalition of World Nations pursuing the idea of a United. Free. Fair. Just and Democratic Earth, that all other nations who were not originally part of the World Union would eventually become part of it, leading to world government who's job it would be to simply look out for the interests of Humanity and not nessecarily decree to a child in Peru that he must Learn Eskimo Poetry about Alaska...

    Of course any institution created by humans has the ability to be broken down, destroyed or twisted.

    But it is my belief that one day the borders shall dissolve, and humanity shall realise that this great planet is too small for us, and we shall then go out... and seek broad, bright new worlds.

    This is a very thin explanation of the things I wish to see, I am actually in the process of writing a manifesto on the subject, and I believe it's actually a workable plan.

    That's the word. I stick to it.

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    Re: World government

    I am a proponent of world government. However I can understand why many Americans (some conservatives) would be against it.

    World government is a terrible idea since it can lead to world tyranny. - Irving Kristol
    Also, Americans with more nationalist attitudes would likely be upset at the United States surrendering some of its sovereignty to a world government.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: World government

    Nothing but arrogance can be inferred from the thought that we have the ability to govern ourselves on a world stage.
    I can see how enacting world misery would be good.
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    Voted no. I happen to think the USA is the best nation in the world.
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    Re: World government

    Only if us earthicans can somehow nominate Richard Nixon's head along with the headless body of Sparrow Agnew as VP.

    In all seriousness, this is not something I think would be even close to beneficial or capable until some significant technological leaps are made

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    Re: World government

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Only if us earthicans can somehow nominate Richard Nixon's head along with the headless body of Sparrow Agnew as VP.

    In all seriousness, this is not something I think would be even close to beneficial or capable until some significant technological leaps are made
    Zyph: I'm not sure what technology has to do with it. Could you elaborate further?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: World government

    If we are concerned for humanity, we would be against it.
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    Re: World government

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Zyph: I'm not sure what technology has to do with it. Could you elaborate further?
    I think the ability for some sort of reliable, inexpensive, quick mode of transportation and the proliferation of communication and connectivity technology across the globe would be needed for a one world government to have any kind of significant success. When we can communicate with groups in almost any segment of the world (likely with video, in groups, with programmable audio-translation) and when we can go from one side of the globe to the other for about a bit less than the amount of time and money it takes now go go from something like New York to Dallas or LA, then it may be doable. Right now, the geographical differences mixed with the economic issues make it an almost impossible venture.

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    Re: World government

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think the ability for some sort of reliable, inexpensive, quick mode of transportation and the proliferation of communication and connectivity technology across the globe would be needed for a one world government to have any kind of significant success. When we can communicate with groups in almost any segment of the world (likely with video, in groups, with programmable audio-translation) and when we can go from one side of the globe to the other for about a bit less than the amount of time and money it takes now go go from something like New York to Dallas or LA, then it may be doable. Right now, the geographical differences mixed with the economic issues make it an almost impossible venture.
    So you think our current transportation and communication infrastructures aren't up to the task of adequately administering such a gov't. Not sure if I agree, but I can see where you're coming from.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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