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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    I agree with President Obama and I think the majority of Americans agree with him as well.
    This whole dust up is typical of the far right wing. They tried this bull**** with Michelle Obama when Barack announced his candidacy for president, and he kicked their ass good.. It didn' work then and it won't work now.


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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I agree with President Obama and I think the majority of Americans agree with him as well.
    This whole dust up is typical of the far right wing. They tried this bull**** with Michelle Obama when Barack announced his candidacy for president, and he kicked their ass good.. It didn' work then and it won't work now.
    You mean, when she said this?
    "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."
    She deserved heat for that. That was the first time as an adult she was proud of her country? Wow.

    Go ahead PB... spin it so it doesn't 'really' mean that.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    If Social Security and Medicare were solely focused on caring for those who can't care for themselves, you might have a point. But today they are universal old age pension and healthcare programs that are unsustainable.

    Few people object to a basic safety net that cares for those who are truly unable to provide for themselves. But there is a big difference between that and what we presently have.
    I didnt participate in this poll because I dont like either answer to be honest...the truth is something different.
    Social Security is not a pension plan lets get that straight...the average social security check is 1177.00 who the HELL can retire on that..you cant get a furnished room with no toilet and laundry privledges for that in the entire northeast...So lets not go teaparty here and exaggerate.

    Take away medicare and give a 5000 dollar credit like ryan wants to do wont work...you cant buy insurance on 1,177 a month plus 5 grand a year when your 69 yrs old and retired, christ in a few years you wont be able to buy a weeks worth of groceries.....You will pay paying for the old baskets anyway and paying more and through the nose. WHO is going to pay when a 70 yr old gets cancer makes 1,177 a month social security LESS the fees the teaparty wants to impose and who cant afford private health insurance with the voucher ryan wants to give him...WHO and who pays for the medicine...YOU thats WHO.
    Any of you people that BELIEVE that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid keep allowing millions of illegal immigrants in here taking all the jobs and keep ALLOWING corporations to ship the jobs to china for a few extra bucks are just bending over and accepting large vocal objects from the teaparty....you will have mass's of people unable to take care of themselves then one of two things happen...you Pay and you Pay WAY MORE or they revolt and kill all the rich people then everyone has squat.. Crime will soar...
    This is all fabricated teapary spoiled brat rich kid crap from people that never had a bad day...who think they can just say SCREW EVERYONE I got mine and im keeping it all and then live happily ever after rich and stuffed like a pig....wishful thinking.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You mean, when she said this?


    She deserved heat for that. That was the first time as an adult she was proud of her country? Wow.

    Go ahead PB... spin it so it doesn't 'really' mean that.
    She was born in 1964 - meaning adulthood around 1984. What amazing things happened in the United States between 1984 and 2008?

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    She was born in 1964 - meaning adulthood around 1984. What amazing things happened in the United States between 1984 and 2008?
    Something 'amazing' has to happen for you to be proud of your country? That's sad.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    She was born in 1964 - meaning adulthood around 1984. What amazing things happened in the United States between 1984 and 2008?
    Uh, hello. How about how we all banded together on 9/11/01 and weeks after praying for lost loved ones, volunteering to help search, sending cards, flowers, giving money, giving time, giving supplies.........we were all just Americans in those days, not right and left. I'm very proud of that. Aren't you?


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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Something 'amazing' has to happen for you to be proud of your country? That's sad.
    That hurts coming from you.

    Nonetheless - we're not talking about "proud", we're talking about "really proud". Let me give you examples of times when Americans were "really proud" of their country - winning the revolutionary war, victory after WWII, passage of the Civil Rights of 1864, etc.. She was talking about pivotal moment in history where you think to yourself - "this is what America is all about". Got it yet?

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Uh, hello. How about how we all banded together on 9/11/01 and weeks after praying for lost loved ones, volunteering to help search, sending cards, flowers, giving money, giving time, giving supplies.........we were all just Americans in those days, not right and left. I'm very proud of that. Aren't you?
    Apparently neither he nor Michelle Obama were proud of their country then. Sad.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Uh, hello. How about how we all banded together on 9/11/01 and weeks after praying for lost loved ones, volunteering to help search, sending cards, flowers, giving money, giving time, giving supplies.........we were all just Americans in those days, not right and left. I'm very proud of that. Aren't you?
    I actually was pretty proud of that...and then we ****ed it up.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    That hurts coming from you.

    Nonetheless - we're not talking about "proud", we're talking about "really proud". Let me give you examples of times when Americans were "really proud" of their country - winning the revolutionary war, victory after WWII, passage of the Civil Rights of 1864, etc.. She was talking about pivotal moment in history where you think to yourself - "this is what America is all about". Got it yet?
    Oh good God... you're whining because you claim a difference between 'proud' and 'really proud'? That's like the difference between blue and really blue. Get a grip.

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