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Thread: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social programs?

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    So, I am confused. Are you suggesting we start ANOTHER federal entitlement program to supply coffins to the needy?
    bahahahahahahhaha

    we need a COFFIN CZAR!!!!



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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    bahahahahahahhaha

    we need a COFFIN CZAR!!!!
    Just goes to show you that given a choice between cremation and coffins, the federal government always goes for the more expensive and bureaucratic solution!

    and you thought finding a suitable nuclear waste site was a nightmare...

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wonder if there was a law that those on welfare could not vote would the dems try so hard to keep so many people dependent on the government
    Dreaming out loud again I see. Good thing that your fantasy is not Americas reality. You are so quick to restrict or take away the right to vote. I have no idea why you even stay here since you are opposed to so much of what America is.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Because we are not doing enough to help that is why. Not to mention we can make folks on welfare do jobtraining but if there are no jobs? Of course they will stay poor.
    Ummmm? What more do they need? A hug and more money? The programs and resources are out there if anyone is really interested in getting ahead in life.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Dreaming out loud again I see. Good thing that your fantasy is not Americas reality. You are so quick to restrict or take away the right to vote. I have no idea why you even stay here since you are opposed to so much of what America is.
    you are quick to justify a lack of responsibility mob rule.

    My vision of america is much closer to the vision of what made America great

    your vision is why we have massive debt, massive underachievement and a massive amount of dependent slackers

    your party wins by creating dependence on the government-thus your party has an interest in creating as much dependence as possible



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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ummmm? What more do they need? A hug and more money? The programs and resources are out there if anyone is really interested in getting ahead in life.
    Well the first thing they need is to be treated with respect and dignity, not like 2nd class citizens. Just because you are getting help does not make you less of a human as some around these forums tend to think.

    We need to give them more job training, computer training, clothing vouchers to go on job interviews, college aide, daycare help and the main focus should probably be that they are more aware of the help that is out here. A lot of folks honestly have no clue and this is not their fault-it is the fault of social workers and others. There also needs to be more checking and pushing these folks to take advantage of the resources that are out here. There needs to be rules and if you do not follow them well we cut you off and unless you agree to follow those rules and go to these programs and training, etc? You may get cut off. Maybe three strikes and you are out?

    The other issue is of course we can train these people, dress them, help them with their interview skills and resume writing but if the jobs are not there what the hell are they suppose to do? If they are doing evertyhing in their power and show proof (which is required) then it is not on them-it is on our gov for not creating enough jobs.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Kali Wrote
    We need to give them more job training, computer training, clothing vouchers to go on job interviews, college aide, daycare help
    Are you sure you don't want to add

    1) a guaranteed high paying job with flexible hours
    2) an alarm clock to make sure they don't oversleep
    3) a ride to the DMV to apply for a drivers license
    4) a voucher for a rental car to get them to work, a car of their own, or a free pass for public transit

    I could go on, but you get my point.
    I bet you are the type that sees nothing wrong with mothers who go with their adult children on job interviews.

    By the way, it is not the Governments job to create jobs. It is their job to create a business friendly environment so the private sector can create the jobs.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Well the first thing they need is to be treated with respect and dignity, not like 2nd class citizens. Just because you are getting help does not make you less of a human as some around these forums tend to think.

    We need to give them more job training, computer training, clothing vouchers to go on job interviews, college aide, daycare help and the main focus should probably be that they are more aware of the help that is out here. A lot of folks honestly have no clue and this is not their fault-it is the fault of social workers and others. There also needs to be more checking and pushing these folks to take advantage of the resources that are out here. There needs to be rules and if you do not follow them well we cut you off and unless you agree to follow those rules and go to these programs and training, etc? You may get cut off. Maybe three strikes and you are out?

    The other issue is of course we can train these people, dress them, help them with their interview skills and resume writing but if the jobs are not there what the hell are they suppose to do? If they are doing evertyhing in their power and show proof (which is required) then it is not on them-it is on our gov for not creating enough jobs.
    "give them"? No, if you want people to have things they don't want to pay for, or can't pay for, you dig into your own pocket and make a donation. Leave everyone else's money alone, you did not earn it for them, you have no right to command how it's spent.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Kali Wrote

    Are you sure you don't want to add

    1) a guaranteed high paying job with flexible hours
    2) an alarm clock to make sure they don't oversleep
    3) a ride to the DMV to apply for a drivers license
    4) a voucher for a rental car to get them to work, a car of their own, or a free pass for public transit

    I could go on, but you get my point.
    I bet you are the type that sees nothing wrong with mothers who go with their adult children on job interviews.

    By the way, it is not the Governments job to create jobs. It is their job to create a business friendly environment so the private sector can create the jobs.
    Check yourself as you do not know me well enough to say I am the type of anything.

    And if you think it is not the Gov job to create more jobs and industry growth? Then why is that always a big winning point in reguards to elections. More jobs is the job of my gov. and it wins elections. If you wish to nitpick about it? Do it with someone else.

    And if you do not wish to help poor people? That is fine too. But do not attack me because I do. And adults going to grown adult childrens job interviews? Where did that come from? I have never said any such thing and not sure why you would think that I support that at all
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