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Thread: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social programs?

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Uh. Huh. And?

    of course many parents of poor children don't give a crap about their spawn.

    That does not make their spawn the public's problem, it makes them suitable goals for voluntary charitable (that's a redundant statement, for those of who believe the government can engage in charity) contributions and action. Again, the nation has a need for unskilled labor, and always shall.
    You asked me this question:

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    What learning barriers?
    I answered your question. Now that your ignorance is obvious, you're changing the subject to whose problem those barriers are. I'm over it.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Oh good God... you're whining because you claim a difference between 'proud' and 'really proud'? That's like the difference between blue and really blue. Get a grip.
    The first time Ms Obama said it, she left out the word "really" and simply stated it was the first time she had been proud of her country. My guess is she was being honest here and later added really because she got so much grief over it.

    http://truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/michelle-obama.htm

    The Truth:
    Did Michelle Obama say "For the first time in my adult lifetime I am proud of my country?"-Truth!
    It was during speeches in Milwaukee and Madison, Wisconsin on February 18, 2008.
    In Milwaukee she said, "People in this country are ready for change and hungry for a different kind of politics and … for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”
    Sickening, for someone campaigning to be our First Lady in my opinion.


    In Madison, she said, "“For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country … not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment.”
    Sickening, but not quite as bad in my opinion.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The first time Ms Obama said it, she left out the word "really" and simply stated it was the first time she had been proud of her country. My guess is she was being honest here and later added really because she got so much grief over it.

    Questions about Michelle Obama

    The Truth:
    Did Michelle Obama say "For the first time in my adult lifetime I am proud of my country?"-Truth!
    It was during speeches in Milwaukee and Madison, Wisconsin on February 18, 2008.


    Sickening, for someone campaigning to be our First Lady in my opinion.




    Sickening, but not quite as bad in my opinion.
    It sounds like a winning issue, I think the GOP should go for it again. Maybe this time it will work.


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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Depends on the individual. And I do think that some of the programs need to be altered to provide more encouragement for independence. That does not change that their mere existence demonstrates the greatness, civilly, and compassion that is the US.
    Compassion would be giving of your own free will out of your own pocket. Compassion is not a government taking from it's citizens and giving to others. I am not against social programs that help those in need, however, those programs are not what makes us great.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Compassion would be giving of your own free will out of your own pocket. Compassion is not a government taking from it's citizens and giving to others. I am not against social programs that help those in need, however, those programs are not what makes us great.
    many libs think they are being charitable when they vote for income redistributionist politicians. They tend to outsource to the government many things the rest of us see as personal responsibilities-be it helping those less fortunate, saving for our future or self defense



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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Exactly. Why should people work to better their lives when the government can just give them stuff. No muss, no fuss.
    It's even worse that we have social programs that make it possible for those who don't work at all to live better than some who do work.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it doesn't happen that way. able bodied men and (childless) women are expected to take care of themselves. are the systems abused? yes. so let's take care of that, instead of pretending EVERYONE can earn enough to take care of themselves.
    And social programs encourage able bodied men to be absent in the lives of the children they donated their sperm to.
    Our social programs encourage single mom's to remain single.
    It's not that easy to find a husband/father that makes enough to replace all the benefits a single mom is eligible for.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    It's even worse that we have social programs that make it possible for those who don't work at all to live better than some who do work.
    I wonder if there was a law that those on welfare could not vote would the dems try so hard to keep so many people dependent on the government



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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It is my opinion that any great nation should always have programs in place that help citizens who struggle, particularly in poverty. If we were a nation that let the "least" of our society stay as they are without any national effort, then we would not be great. Charities cannot handle all the work required to take such actions.
    That's true, but government shouldn't take tax dollars to provide food stamps etc for people who can afford to have cell phones, big screen TV's, Dish Network etc. either. We've gone way beyond helping the needy and those going through hard times.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not think I would have phrased it just the same way, but yes, I do agree with the sentiment. We are the greatest country on earth, and a big part of why is that we do care enough as a society to take care of the elderly.
    Yes, phrase it more subtlely so that the American people don't know EXACTLY what you mean. That's the usual approach, Obama ****ed up.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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